Tesla's stock has rallied nearly 60 percent in one week

I sold all my tesla stock a few years back. Their forcing of self-wrecking cars at our safety risk is something I can't get behind. People have been killed directly because of it and they still continue to push it on us. Yes, I am still glad I sold my stock. The love of money over people's lives ends here.

So you sold your stock because the general public are morons that don't understand there is no such thing as full auto pilot in a Tesla regardless of what the marketing says. After the first few people died doing nonsense you figure that would be enough for the rest to catch on.

I welcome more Darwin award winners the planet is over populated.

But people still have it on. Darwin award for death by computer. And killing others. tesla spent money on it. I do not give them any cash because I don't want my money going into it. Too bad for them as I looked into buying one as well.

lol I'm sure they are hurting right now because they don't have your money.
 
So you sold your stock because the general public are morons that don't understand there is no such thing as full auto pilot in a Tesla regardless of what the marketing says. After the first few people died doing nonsense you figure that would be enough for the rest to catch on.

I welcome more Darwin award winners the planet is over populated.



lol I'm sure they are hurting right now because they don't have your money.

How do you know it isn't hurting them? Are you making an assumption with no information about me that I am not a multi millionaire? Even if I weren't, yes it does hurt them even if it's only a scratch. I guarantee I am not the only one, either.

If they could even somewhat test these things on a closed track they might get a few people to support them. Heck I haven't even heard of a single race with these, let alone a track race with random and unforeseen obstacles and weather, nor even offroad capabilities. Let's throw one of these things in a rally race... lol. They are alpha testing these things are our safety risk. Those who could care less about human life (even their own, their children or family) are trying to force these on us.
 
How do you know it isn't hurting them? Are you making an assumption with no information about me that I am not a multi millionaire? Even if I weren't, yes it does hurt them even if it's only a scratch. I guarantee I am not the only one, either.

If they could even somewhat test these things on a closed track they might get a few people to support them. Heck I haven't even heard of a single race with these, let alone a track race with random and unforeseen obstacles and weather, nor even offroad capabilities. Let's throw one of these things in a rally race... lol. They are alpha testing these things are our safety risk. Those who could care less about human life (even their own, their children or family) are trying to force these on us.

I know due to common sense do you really think 1 Car sale is going to hurt there bottom line? Your assumption that is hurting them is worse than mine that is isn't :)

These aren't race cars and were never marketed as such so all of that is irrelevant.

Nobody is forcing anything on you unless Musk came to your house and pointed a gun at you and told you to buy a Tesla

There is a tone of self importance in your post where I'm not sure where its coming from but time to bring those feet back to the ground.
 
I know due to common sense do you really think 1 Car sale is going to hurt there bottom line? Your assumption that is hurting them is worse than mine that is isn't :)

These aren't race cars and were never marketed as such so all of that is irrelevant.

Nobody is forcing anything on you unless Musk came to your house and pointed a gun at you and told you to buy a Tesla

There is a tone of self importance in your post where I'm not sure where its coming from but time to bring those feet back to the ground.

First of all you should go read my comments before commenting. I was talking about stocks not car sales. Why would you assume I would only buy one?

I called racing because that would at least be some representation of agility. They are being used as race cars.

You are incorrect - Musk is forcing these self-wrecking cars on me, yes. I see them around me on commutes. They are super rare, but yes he is putting my life in danger at his computer's commands and his love of money.

Sorry, but I do not think much of this world. I look beyond these earthly possessions - to eternity of people's lives and souls. NO self importance here. If you didn't realize it, I am looking for the safety of everyone. Not myself only. Too bad people don't vote like this.
 
First of all you should go read my comments before commenting. I was talking about stocks not car sales. Why would you assume I would only buy one?

The amount of people that own tesla's is very small in the car market. Owners of 2 or more tesla's are even smaller percentage of the first group. So that is why I assume one vehicle purchase.

I called racing because that would at least be some representation of agility. They are being used as race cars.

No comment on this one.

You are incorrect - Musk is forcing these self-wrecking cars on me, yes. I see them around me on commutes. They are super rare, but yes he is putting my life in danger at his computer's commands and his love of money.

lol you are in danger every time you leave your house. You could get hit by a bus with a human drivers and there is far more of those on the road than tesla cars. So that argument is weak. If you look up the stats for vehicle fatalities your chances of dying by a human driver in another brand vehicle is exponentially higher so the numbers are not in your favor.

Sorry, but I do not think much of this world. I look beyond these earthly possessions - to eternity of people's lives and souls. NO self importance here. If you didn't realize it, I am looking for the safety of everyone. Not myself only. Too bad people don't vote like this.

Its commendable for you to be looking out for your fellow citizens. You make it sound like you are doing a public service by not buying a tesla, which isn't going to stop anyone else from buying one so kinda futile. And to be honest this is totally out of your control. You will be seeing more and more tesla cars on the road as time progresses regardless if you like it or not.
 
This is all artificial stock pumping up. There's nothing real about those billions. They as easily deflate as they inflated. It's enough that someone starts selling that ****, to get actual real money, and the entire balloon deflates with a big long smelly fart.

Stocks started as a great way to finance companies, but turned into a virus that is destroying the world. Same as money, whether fiat or crypto, same thing. If it's not based on a physical value, then it's virtual. And that means worthless.
Your $20 bills are just pieces of cotton with some ink on them. Most of the money in the world is virtual and only exists as numbers in a computer.

It has value if someone will pay for it. A Tesla share literally is less real than spring breeze, but when you sell one it becomes $700 in cash. Anything that someone will pay $700 for has value - regardless of whether you think it should be based on 'physical value' or not. We dropped the gold standard years ago.
 

My whole point was that I am not funding a company (buying stock, nor a car) that is forcing self-wrecking cars on us. Sorry if somehow I mislead you. Do you have proof it will not stop anyone in this world from buying one? You sound like you think you are omniscient.

You are being duped by numbers. You are comparing a few thousand of these against billions of cars driven daily in all situations? lol. I seriously cannot comprehend how people make this comparison. That's like comparing how many deaths there were by hydrogen-powered cars compared to cars using gasoline. "everyone should be driving hydrogen cars - they are safer! look at how low the deaths are!!" LOL. Given that line of thinking, everyone should be driving a Ford Pinto! ;)
 
My whole point was that I am not funding a company (buying stock, nor a car) that is forcing self-wrecking cars on us. Sorry if somehow I mislead you. Do you have proof it will not stop anyone in this world from buying one? You sound like you think you are omniscient.

You are being duped by numbers. You are comparing a few thousand of these against billions of cars driven daily in all situations? lol. I seriously cannot comprehend how people make this comparison. That's like comparing how many deaths there were by hydrogen-powered cars compared to cars using gasoline. "everyone should be driving hydrogen cars - they are safer! look at how low the deaths are!!" LOL. Given that line of thinking, everyone should be driving a Ford Pinto! ;)

The proof you are looking for will show itself this year, as the Chinese tesla factory is now online and the stock price is soaring showing investor confidence.

My point is there are million ways to die just leaving your house. You have better odds of getting hit by lighting than dying via a tesla car. But I feel it doesn't matter what I post you will continue to believe what you will.
 
The proof you are looking for will show itself this year, as the Chinese tesla factory is now online and the stock price is soaring showing investor confidence.

My point is there are million ways to die just leaving your house. You have better odds of getting hit by lighting than dying via a tesla car. But I feel it doesn't matter what I post you will continue to believe what you will.

But they would have had even MORE money. That is the point which went way over your head.

I haven't been able to understand your math is why I don't believe anything you've posted. You, again, are being duped by basic math. You are also being duped by probability. Most people don't understand statistics though, so I don't fault you for that. How do you know I won't get hit by one tomorrow? You could have said that the day before any of the people that have already died. See what I mean? What if you get killed by one tomorrow? Will that change your mind? That is as low brow as I can state it. If you don't understand something as simple as that, I don't see this conversation needs to continue. Thanks for your attention anyway.
 
It has value if someone will pay for it. A Tesla share literally is less real than spring breeze, but when you sell one it becomes $700 in cash. Anything that someone will pay $700 for has value - regardless of whether you think it should be based on 'physical value' or not. We dropped the gold standard years ago.

Sure, and if you just photocopy money, sooner or later you'll find some poor victim that will think it's real money. Which means, photocopied money is the same thing as normal money. Because it had value FOR YOU, while you were cheating other people. But they lost.

It's called cheating. And it really works, at least for some time. But only for those who are first on the list. Everyone else loses. Just like in any Ponzi scheme.

Remember those derivatives that criminals from the Goldman Sachs bank sold to the entire world? It had a real value for them. They earned hundreds of billions of (untaxable) money, and in the end they paid a $5 billion fee for destroying the world market. It's like stealing 20 millions dollars and paying $20,000 fee for it. Everyone would gladly pay it and keep the rest.

Those derivatives had value FOR THEM. But they were totally toxic for everyone else. The price was overinflated by the bribed rating agencies and corrupt financial media.

Can you now understand the difference between cheating and trading? One steals, the other gives some reasonable value in return. Both can be very profitable. Actually, crime is often more profitable, since you don't give any value in return. That's why it should be punishable. Although the government doesn't seem to care. Didn't they learn anything from the 2008 derivative market collapse, causing the biggest financial crisis since 1929?
 
But they would have had even MORE money. That is the point which went way over your head.

I haven't been able to understand your math is why I don't believe anything you've posted. You, again, are being duped by basic math. You are also being duped by probability. Most people don't understand statistics though, so I don't fault you for that. How do you know I won't get hit by one tomorrow? You could have said that the day before any of the people that have already died. See what I mean? What if you get killed by one tomorrow? Will that change your mind? That is as low brow as I can state it. If you don't understand something as simple as that, I don't see this conversation needs to continue. Thanks for your attention anyway.

You clearly don't understand basic math.

There is a higher change of you killing someone on your way home tonight than a Tesla killing its own driver. For three reasons. One, There is not a whole lot of Teslas out in the world. Two, Most Tesla Drivers do not 100% rely on the feature and even the car requires you to keep your hands on the wheel for it to function. Three, You are human and are capable of making mistakes and are no better at predicting the future than a machine. Which is to say that predicting the future is impossible, and you are nothing more than a nature made biological machine.


So far the number of autonomous accidents to total number of vehicles equipped with the tech is very low. Lower than middled aged adults that drive newer vehicles and are in pretty good standing with their insurance. I don't trust driving next to someone like you. Hell I wouldn't even trust driving next to someone like me, and I have never been involved in a collision. I'm not for the continued allowance of thousands of deaths every year simply because tech is scary and hard to understand. Honestly it isnt hard to understand.

GM Sold J-Body Cars for more than a decade. These car's have one of the worst crash test Ratings of the last 30 years. In the Top 5 of IIHS worst crash ratings for a vehicle still on the road. These vehicles have killed thousands of people because of flawed designs. Some of which could have just walked away, even in something as tiny as a 90's honda civic. These are that bad and dangerous. Injuries from these vehicles are even higher, with permanent damage. This isn't their only car in the top 5 either. The U-Body is just as bad. The #1 platform of family deaths by inadequate design for the time period.

While there is not many of these cheaply made GM's on the road these days. They by far are a higher risk on the roads than some very seldomly used automation features that will only get better with time.

No one cares about your pennies anyways. Telsa doesn't need em. Automation and Electric cars are clearly the future. AC Motors are extremely reliable. The VFD Controllers tend to last a long time if kept cool. No need to complex exhaust and fuel systems. Battery tech keeps improving every year making lith-ion safer and longer lasting.
 
You clearly don't understand basic math.

There is a higher change of you killing someone on your way home tonight than a Tesla killing its own driver. For three reasons. One, There is not a whole lot of Teslas out in the world. Two, Most Tesla Drivers do not 100% rely on the feature and even the car requires you to keep your hands on the wheel for it to function. Three, You are human and are capable of making mistakes and are no better at predicting the future than a machine. Which is to say that predicting the future is impossible, and you are nothing more than a nature made biological machine.


So far the number of autonomous accidents to total number of vehicles equipped with the tech is very low. Lower than middled aged adults that drive newer vehicles and are in pretty good standing with their insurance. I don't trust driving next to someone like you. Hell I wouldn't even trust driving next to someone like me, and I have never been involved in a collision. I'm not for the continued allowance of thousands of deaths every year simply because tech is scary and hard to understand. Honestly it isnt hard to understand.

GM Sold J-Body Cars for more than a decade. These car's have one of the worst crash test Ratings of the last 30 years. In the Top 5 of IIHS worst crash ratings for a vehicle still on the road. These vehicles have killed thousands of people because of flawed designs. Some of which could have just walked away, even in something as tiny as a 90's honda civic. These are that bad and dangerous. Injuries from these vehicles are even higher, with permanent damage. This isn't their only car in the top 5 either. The U-Body is just as bad. The #1 platform of family deaths by inadequate design for the time period.

While there is not many of these cheaply made GM's on the road these days. They by far are a higher risk on the roads than some very seldomly used automation features that will only get better with time.

No one cares about your pennies anyways. Telsa doesn't need em. Automation and Electric cars are clearly the future. AC Motors are extremely reliable. The VFD Controllers tend to last a long time if kept cool. No need to complex exhaust and fuel systems. Battery tech keeps improving every year making lith-ion safer and longer lasting.

Great post.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I have a feeling though none of that will stick with him.

I don't understand basic math yet he can't show me the numbers to backup his claims that they are selling death machines and current cars are not 100x times worse.

I'll wait for it.
 
Automation and Electric cars are clearly the future. AC Motors are extremely reliable. The VFD Controllers tend to last a long time if kept cool. No need to complex exhaust and fuel systems. Battery tech keeps improving every year making lith-ion safer and longer lasting.

Yeah, electric cars are the future, but I'm glad you didn't say "battery powered". Because batteries are problem here. Efficient fuel cells would be better, or maybe changeable electrolyte. But the biggest problem is energy production. If all the cars switch to electricity... from where do we get all the electricity we need? Non-breeder fission nuclear reactors? I honestly hope not.
 
You clearly don't understand basic math.

There is a higher change of you killing someone on your way home tonight than a Tesla killing its own driver. For three reasons. One, There is not a whole lot of Teslas out in the world. Two, Most Tesla Drivers do not 100% rely on the feature and even the car requires you to keep your hands on the wheel for it to function. Three, You are human and are capable of making mistakes and are no better at predicting the future than a machine. Which is to say that predicting the future is impossible, and you are nothing more than a nature made biological machine.


So far the number of autonomous accidents to total number of vehicles equipped with the tech is very low. Lower than middled aged adults that drive newer vehicles and are in pretty good standing with their insurance. I don't trust driving next to someone like you. Hell I wouldn't even trust driving next to someone like me, and I have never been involved in a collision. I'm not for the continued allowance of thousands of deaths every year simply because tech is scary and hard to understand. Honestly it isnt hard to understand.

GM Sold J-Body Cars for more than a decade. These car's have one of the worst crash test Ratings of the last 30 years. In the Top 5 of IIHS worst crash ratings for a vehicle still on the road. These vehicles have killed thousands of people because of flawed designs. Some of which could have just walked away, even in something as tiny as a 90's honda civic. These are that bad and dangerous. Injuries from these vehicles are even higher, with permanent damage. This isn't their only car in the top 5 either. The U-Body is just as bad. The #1 platform of family deaths by inadequate design for the time period.

While there is not many of these cheaply made GM's on the road these days. They by far are a higher risk on the roads than some very seldomly used automation features that will only get better with time.

No one cares about your pennies anyways. Telsa doesn't need em. Automation and Electric cars are clearly the future. AC Motors are extremely reliable. The VFD Controllers tend to last a long time if kept cool. No need to complex exhaust and fuel systems. Battery tech keeps improving every year making lith-ion safer and longer lasting.
Great post.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I have a feeling though none of that will stick with him.

I don't understand basic math yet he can't show me the numbers to backup his claims that they are selling death machines and current cars are not 100x times worse.

I'll wait for it.

So, you both would have said:

"Electric cars are clearly the future."

"Which is to say that predicting the future is impossible"

?? LMAO, /facepalm

There really is nothing left for me to say from that statement as I don't need to. lol

Yes, I can predict and be proactive to situations. If a couch is bouncing around loose in the back of a trailer, I am going to stay far away from it. Is a computer going to know this? lol... It's ok though because you say nobody knows the future... Nothing else needs to be said here. You discredited yourself. Take care.
 
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