This AI claims to predict crimes before they happen based on real-time CCTV analysis

[JuanDegr]

 

[redgarl]

You got it wrong, it can predict a vague of crimes based on available data.

It is like predicting there might be vandalism around the arena after an Iron Maiden concert.

It is not predicting a crime before it happens, it is giving you the prediction over a probability.

 

[redgarl]

NOPE. No way hombre. The possibility of this being abused is FAR too high to justify it. Both stipulations you cited would never ever be followed, and the data collected will be used to oppress. There is no way around it. The moment you start justifying "pre crime", that exact moment, your rights stop mattering.

Besides, this wont stop anything, even if it was used 100% properly. The issue isnt catching criminals, its that the courts, and the DAs, refuse to convict, or if they do, refuse to hand out lengthy jail sentences. At worse, they give probation for the 4th time, or more fines they never bother collecting, and said criminal goes right back out and does it again. Even if you fixed that, the prisons are all full.

That's why crime in American cities is such an issue. They use this "crisis" to justify implementing privacy invading tools like this that will fix nothing but gives the government more power to know everything about you.

This is not facial recognition homee...

This is factoring many aspect like wearing a mask, going back and forth, demonstrating a suspect pattern...

This is literally the same as when a cop is patrolling the street, so there is no issues with the software or the use of it. The problem is still the abuse an officer can make if he is incompetent or unfit to do its job.

 

[Mr Majestyk]

Minority Report

I better let Tom Cruise know he's going to be needed again.

I'll bet the Church of Scientology would love this tech to see if anyone is trying to leave.

 

[abdulhkeem]

Aand there we go to the age of watch dogs, just hope this won't be used for bad things!

 

[dmatheson]

NOPE. No way hombre. The possibility of this being abused is FAR too high to justify it. Both stipulations you cited would never ever be followed, and the data collected will be used to oppress. There is no way around it. The moment you start justifying "pre crime", that exact moment, your rights stop mattering.

Besides, this wont stop anything, even if it was used 100% properly. The issue isnt catching criminals, its that the courts, and the DAs, refuse to convict, or if they do, refuse to hand out lengthy jail sentences. At worse, they give probation for the 4th time, or more fines they never bother collecting, and said criminal goes right back out and does it again. Even if you fixed that, the prisons are all full.

That's why crime in American cities is such an issue. They use this "crisis" to justify implementing privacy invading tools like this that will fix nothing but gives the government more power to know everything about you.

One HUGE reason, at least in CA is that we kept getting put under Consent Decrees because of the state of our prisons. The DA's have to be choosy about how they use those beds. They're not wild about their options, either. But rather than throwing away people, especially those who are committing crimes before the age of 25 when their frontal lobe is still developing, I'd like to see the money spent on rehabilitation research instead of more prison beds. A certain percentage of the population will only respond to punitive interventions, I'd like to be able to assess the ones that could be productive and give them another chance. Win - win we don't have to pay for their prison bed, they grow our economy. And that tool is definitely creepy, and I have to wonder if it's self-reinforcing and could easily go off the rails without expensive humans babysitting it.

 

[JuanDegr]

You got it wrong, it can predict a vague of crimes based on available data.

Hey, I just posted a funny meme. But here goes: Predicting 'vagues'? Please share your insights

Honestly, up to this point I thought it's all about values, not vagues. I learned about vectorized data, multiplication of matrices and probabilities, even with video AI they told me those are the essentials. I feel so lost right now. I have a vague feeling that you are a true expert. Please share more with us.

It is not predicting a crime before it happens, it is giving you the prediction over a probability.

Oh wow, so you are saying it basically is not predicting a crime before it happens? Talking about redefining the word 'prediction'! So afterwards maybe? At least we can be sure then

And what the heck is the 'prediction over a probability'? This some funny math square trick Max Born would come up with? I want to learn what it means, darn it. They tricked us in statistics and came up with this 0.05 gibberish, and nobody mentioned the vagues. It's a conspiracy! My probability meme could be so much better.

Please lay your words of wisdom on us. Don't be a one time forum explainer and show us the works (If you remain silent this would almost be a vague of crime).