Yeah seen that garbage before and then they just increase their prices and make you watch ads. Ubisoft can kiss my a$$!
Ubisoft says gamers should just accept not owning their games
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Well, people pay to experience movies all the time - but they don't get ownership of said movie in doing so, correct? Not being able to "own" it does not mean it should be absolutely free.
A much more logical argument is to charge a lot less for a full gameplay (perhaps the cost of a movie ticket for any new AAA title) and call it good. If I choose to play it again, I pay the lower price again - just like seeing a movie more than once.
Okay if the idea is eventually publishers will only release their games on subscription services, good luck with that.
I've almost gone cabless because of how they bundle so many shite channels together with nothing but repeats the majority of the time. So now for a monthly gaming subscription I not only will no longer own my games, but I'll have access to a library of games where 90% I would never play? Again, good luck with that.
Gaming subscription services will have a place... eventually. But I buy very few games at full MSRP, I think BG3 was the last one where I did (when it was in early access as well). And even with the ones I get on sale there's many I never buy. I've got too many games as it is, and I simply have no interest in a smorgas board approach to my gaming needs.
As for any idea that we'll eventually not own our games, we really need a court case like the one that allowed consumers to format shift their IP content. I've never bought digital music or video for this very reason. I have no problem subbing to video/music streamers, simply because broadcast TV/radio has already made it palpable. But I draw the line at books and games.
I've almost gone cabless because of how they bundle so many shite channels together with nothing but repeats the majority of the time. So now for a monthly gaming subscription I not only will no longer own my games, but I'll have access to a library of games where 90% I would never play? Again, good luck with that.
Gaming subscription services will have a place... eventually. But I buy very few games at full MSRP, I think BG3 was the last one where I did (when it was in early access as well). And even with the ones I get on sale there's many I never buy. I've got too many games as it is, and I simply have no interest in a smorgas board approach to my gaming needs.
As for any idea that we'll eventually not own our games, we really need a court case like the one that allowed consumers to format shift their IP content. I've never bought digital music or video for this very reason. I have no problem subbing to video/music streamers, simply because broadcast TV/radio has already made it palpable. But I draw the line at books and games.
ZedRM
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You got that right..
And that is when I will stop watching movies, TV, playing games and whatever.
ZedRM
Posts: 2,857 +1,886
Almost, but mostly incorrect. Going to the theater sure, you're paying for a one-time-viewing. But at home? I buy my movies on Bluray or DVD, or I do without. If studios want to make money from me they had best put it on disc. They will not be selling to me otherwise, because I don't do rentals.
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Cycloid Torus
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Cancel cuture has a new target... subscriptions.
Unfortunately he is probably right, but as a caveat, it won't be hard for me to get used to not owning Ubisoft games. The only recent game from them that I even somewhat liked was Immortals, but it was a game that was easily forgotten.
Well, I guess it means that Ubisoft will not own my money either...
Northy
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Are you really doing some DMG CTRL for Ubisoft? Really?
I hope you are not doing it for free, because that would be stupid...
I'm feeling like there is a growing swathe of the folks in the more grey and overcast parts of the internet that have just recently decided that maybe Ubisoft should get used to not owning their games either.
GodisanAtheist
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A big part of the issue, IMO, is that people engage with videogames in a totally different way than they do with something like Music and Movies.
The later are purely consumable, non-interacctive, and generally very short experiences. I actually love music streaming, I have so much exposure and find so many more artists than I ever would have buying CDs where 80% of the songs are garbage and I only find out after buying.
It's similar with movies, but at least there we had rental stores so the concept of not owning a movie and just paying a little to enjoy it once was pretty firmly entrenched in culture.
Games though? Now more than ever they are 40/50/60/100 hour affairs, it takes me two days to even download a modern AAA, and services like Steam have made "ownership of a perpetual license" cheap, easy, and convenient.
I started playing Fallout 4 in early December. I'm still playing it in mid January. I bought the GOTY edition for $10. Ubisoft would have asked me to pay $26 (two months subscription) for the luxury of playing it. The math just doesn't make sense, and will likely never make sense.
Game pass "works" because it is dirt cheap to try, and offers a broad selection of games from various devs. We can even expect that service to tighten the belt here pretty soon cause it's fine when you're paying an intro price of $1 a month, but plenty of people bail out when the $10 starts flowing.
The later are purely consumable, non-interacctive, and generally very short experiences. I actually love music streaming, I have so much exposure and find so many more artists than I ever would have buying CDs where 80% of the songs are garbage and I only find out after buying.
It's similar with movies, but at least there we had rental stores so the concept of not owning a movie and just paying a little to enjoy it once was pretty firmly entrenched in culture.
Games though? Now more than ever they are 40/50/60/100 hour affairs, it takes me two days to even download a modern AAA, and services like Steam have made "ownership of a perpetual license" cheap, easy, and convenient.
I started playing Fallout 4 in early December. I'm still playing it in mid January. I bought the GOTY edition for $10. Ubisoft would have asked me to pay $26 (two months subscription) for the luxury of playing it. The math just doesn't make sense, and will likely never make sense.
Game pass "works" because it is dirt cheap to try, and offers a broad selection of games from various devs. We can even expect that service to tighten the belt here pretty soon cause it's fine when you're paying an intro price of $1 a month, but plenty of people bail out when the $10 starts flowing.
fazy shah
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No, thanks. I would rather buy cheaper games once they get cheap rather than paying monthly fees forever.
RudyBob
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people don't pay to watch their VHS/DVD/BD after purchase.Almost all my movie watching is those formats or Fairuse Wizard/4k converter versions of those purchased movies.
Many of them, including Ubi, often get caught doing sexual harassment to employees.
Wokeness might be their only one and last defense.
Inthenstus
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Glad I just spent 2K on classic video games and consoles instead of a lame Ubisoft game I can’t play for decades. Ubisoft is really digging themselves a hole here. I honestly can’t remember when I bought a new Ubisoft game.
Movie streaming services offer value because you actually can get a ton of use out of them. A family consumes a lot of content.
Games are a different beast altogether. It is very hard to spend enough time gaming to justify a subscription. You would need to be on a family plan with a whole family that wants to game multiple hours every day. Much cheaper overall to buy the games you want and play them at your leisure.
Games are a different beast altogether. It is very hard to spend enough time gaming to justify a subscription. You would need to be on a family plan with a whole family that wants to game multiple hours every day. Much cheaper overall to buy the games you want and play them at your leisure.
whateversa
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Gastec
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I say Ubisoft should just accept gamers not buying their games.
Trembley: "One of the things we saw is that gamers are used to, a little bit like DVD, having and owning their games. That's the consumer shift that needs to happen."
The "consumer" should also not own a car, not own a house and in general not own anything, just rent everything. "You will own nothing and you will be happy." Ida Auken, World Economic Forum, 2016. I don't have enough profanity and curses for these people!
Trembley: "One of the things we saw is that gamers are used to, a little bit like DVD, having and owning their games. That's the consumer shift that needs to happen."
The "consumer" should also not own a car, not own a house and in general not own anything, just rent everything. "You will own nothing and you will be happy." Ida Auken, World Economic Forum, 2016. I don't have enough profanity and curses for these people!
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StrikerRocket
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Then, exec should be prepared for an increase in piracy, simple as that!
When it gets to that, I will just cancel my Ubisoft account, and that's that, and I will keep on getting games on GOG.
Aside from that, I have been using the following strategy for a long time now: I buy tech or software at least 1 or 2 years *after* it comes out. This way, I can get it with a huge discount, the caveat being that I am not up to date with most of the things I buy. But you know what? I don't care!
When it gets to that, I will just cancel my Ubisoft account, and that's that, and I will keep on getting games on GOG.
Aside from that, I have been using the following strategy for a long time now: I buy tech or software at least 1 or 2 years *after* it comes out. This way, I can get it with a huge discount, the caveat being that I am not up to date with most of the things I buy. But you know what? I don't care!
JamesBlond
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I can't remember the last time I played an Ubisoft game all the way to the end, let alone wanted to replay it over again. So I guess this doesn't affect me.
But they can still go f*ck themselves.
But they can still go f*ck themselves.
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