Upcoming Windows 10 feature promises to optimize a device based on its use case

[poshflamingos]

I know how to close out a program. I can even navigate through windows with just using the keyboard. So, keep assuming you know how someone else is when it comes to them be "tech savvy".

I wasn't telling you how to close a program. When you do Alt+F4 on the desktop (I.e. with no program windows open) you get a dialog box for shutting down Windows 10 itself. The "shutdown" option comes selected by default, so Alt+F4 followed by Enter shuts the system down. That's why I also gave you the Win+D shortcut that minimizes all open windows and places you on the desktop.

That convoluted process to navigate teh start menu with the keyboard is ridiculous. Why would anybody do that when there is a much simpler way available? It's obvious you didn't know about it, at least now you do.

 

[captaincranky]

That's what I started with and that's why I know the keyboard shortcuts. When the first GUIs came out, I had been using keyboard-only computers for years already. I had been used to seeing "C>" in MS-DOS and found that Windows slowed computers to a crawl in comparison.

Well now see, I got into computers much later, I think it was about Win 95. That said, it wasn't to the ends of computer science, but rather Photoshop, which has a litany of keyboard shortcuts for tool selection. However, Ctrl A, Ctrl C, Ctrl X, Ctrl V, and Ctrl Z or Y, have the same functions as in Windows. Other shortcuts work for tool selection.

Let's say you want to move something, (or things). IMO at least), control clicking multiple items, and then right clicking, into the context menu, seems easier that resorting to the keyboard. A destination folder can be selected with right click as well as a left click with the context menu flying out simultaneously. It doesn't make sense, (to me at least), to resort to the keyboard and control V, to paste into the folder, when you've got "paste" function already open in context.

Then too, the $4.00 "Inland" keyboards (Micro Center store brand), which I destroy with alarming frequency, still have "Sleep", & "power" buttons on them. Knowing the shortcuts for those operations doesn't ease my life one bit.

So, (again IMO), a hybrid approach using both mouse and keyboard in concert, gets the job done as quickly as relying on either separately.

Maybe I'm just a bitter old man.

Trust me, I know the feeling.

 

[captaincranky]

You know what works really well to optimize windows? ShutUp10.

From what I can tell, the best "optimization strategy" for Windows 10, is to make sure it's installed on someone else's computer, not yours.

 

[Gastec]

'Users must allow Microsoft to access their data to "create personalized experiences." '
Sound like something coming from a certain representative of Electronic Arts. Does it require access to a bank account or credit card also to adjust graphical settings in the video driver or just access to our online activity?

 

[ZedRM]

Users must allow Microsoft to access their data to "create personalized experiences."

This is an unacceptable condition. Microsoft should be making the configuration available to us users to select as we see fit instead of imposing upon our privacy. This is nothing more than a typical data baiting scheme. Sleezy and foul. No Thank You Microsoft.

 

[BobHome]

Or you could just put a shutdown icon on your desktop.

How to Create a Shutdown Icon in Windows 10

There's an old trick that allows you to create a Shutdown icon right on your Windows 10 desktop. Here's how to do it!

www.howtogeek.com

And if double-clicking that shortcut is too much, pin it to the Taskbar for a one-click shutdown.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

I wasn't telling you how to close a program. When you do Alt+F4 on the desktop (I.e. with no program windows open) you get a dialog box for shutting down Windows 10 itself. The "shutdown" option comes selected by default, so Alt+F4 followed by Enter shuts the system down. That's why I also gave you the Win+D shortcut that minimizes all open windows and places you on the desktop.

That convoluted process to navigate teh start menu with the keyboard is ridiculous. Why would anybody do that when there is a much simpler way available? It's obvious you didn't know about it, at least now you do.

Yet you still assume people don't know how to navigate a computer.

I'd try to explain again to you how convoluted Windows 10 has made things compared to past iterations of the OS, but you'd just continue to fail to grasp the idea that a simple example given to make a comparison and nothing more. Then you'd insist on trying to tell people how to do it better when no request was asked just to make yourself sound "smart" to other people around you.

 

[wiyosaya]

Funnily enough, it didn't have to be that way because, unlike MS Windows, IBM OS/2 was actually faster than MS-DOS despite being a GUI. The problem was the same problem that AMD suffered. Microsoft leveraged its money and marketing to get people to use Windows 3.1 even though it was just a DOS mask and OS/2 was an actual OS that ran DOS and Windows applications faster than DOS or Windows and also ran OS/2 applications which the other two didn't.

I bought a copy of OS/2 and ran it. I don't remember much about it. OS/2 vanished from the world shortly after I bought it.

 

[wiyosaya]

This is an unacceptable condition. Microsoft should be making the configuration available to us users to select as we see fit instead of imposing upon our privacy. This is nothing more than a typical data baiting scheme. Sleezy and foul. No Thank You Microsoft.

M$ wants to keep track of everything that you own of theirs in your account. That is unacceptable. Want Windohs 10? They attempt to force you to connect the key with your M$ account. Want the stand-alone version of Office? It is virtually impossible to activate it without connecting the key to your M$ account.

I see it as completely unacceptable that M$ wants everything Windohs related to be associated with your M$ account. M$ is driving users away with this load of

 

[wiyosaya]

From what I can tell, the best "optimization strategy" for Windows 10, is to make sure it's installed on someone else's computer, not yours.

Sounds like a perfectly valid approach to me!

 

[BadThad]

M$ wants to keep track of everything that you own of theirs in your account. That is unacceptable. Want Windohs 10? They attempt to force you to connect the key with your M$ account. Want the stand-alone version of Office? It is virtually impossible to activate it without connecting the key to your M$ account.

I see it as completely unacceptable that M$ wants everything Windohs related to be associated with your M$ account. M$ is driving users away with this load of

I run all those things and don't have a Microsoft account. Take a look at Office 2010, it can be run WITHOUT anything except the CDKEY and it's compatible with Office 365 (garbage).

 

[Avro Arrow]

Well now see, I got into computers much later, I think it was about Win 95. That said, it wasn't to the ends of computer science, but rather Photoshop, which has a litany of keyboard shortcuts for tool selection. However, Ctrl A, Ctrl C, Ctrl X, Ctrl V, and Ctrl Z or Y, have the same functions as in Windows. Other shortcuts work for tool selection.

Let's say you want to move something, (or things). IMO at least), control clicking multiple items, and then right clicking, into the context menu, seems easier that resorting to the keyboard. A destination folder can be selected with right click as well as a left click with the context menu flying out simultaneously. It doesn't make sense, (to me at least), to resort to the keyboard and control V, to paste into the folder, when you've got "paste" function already open in context.

Then too, the $4.00 "Inland" keyboards (Micro Center store brand), which I destroy with alarming frequency, still have "Sleep", & "power" buttons on them. Knowing the shortcuts for those operations doesn't ease my life one bit.

So, (again IMO), a hybrid approach using both mouse and keyboard in concert, gets the job done as quickly as relying on either separately.

Trust me, I know the feeling.

Now I understand what you're talking about. I didn't mean ONLY using keyboard shortcuts, I meant knowing what they are and how to use them. Please understand that, with one exception, my co-workers are complete dunces when it comes to computers. Seeing them using the mouse for EVERY POSSIBLE THING (and taking forever to do so) instead of just using the tab key to jump from line to line quickly has given me a serious case of "DAMMITIHATEMICE!!!" syndrome.

If they had to use the command line interface of MS-DOS, BASIC or QNX, they would've been about as effective as a dog staring dumbly at its reflection in the water or a deer caught in some headlights. That's when I realised that the GUI was (at least partially) made for them. I know that's why Apple had it in the original Mac back in 1984. To this day, Apple has taken the approach that those who are tech-handicapped will pay more for a device that will mother them along.

Maybe I should have said that knowing DOS shortcuts is the way to tell a tech veteran from a relative newbie, regardless of expertise. Most people today don't realise that, at its core, Windows is still MS-DOS just like, at its core, an i7 is still an 8086. If they'd never heard of MS-DOS, none of this will have ever been shown to them.

One of my co-workers didn't believe me when I told them this and so I asked him "Ok then, why is your main hard drive always the C drive? What happened to drive A and drive B?". All I got was a blank stare and a vacant shrug of the shoulders so I answered for him "It's because, even today, with the latest version of Windows... drives A and B are reserved for floppy drives ONLY." which of course, was completely relevant in the MS-DOS and early Windows eras but have become like tonsils. An old bit of code in Windows' DNA that does absolutely nothing now.

 

[Avro Arrow]

I bought a copy of OS/2 and ran it. I don't remember much about it. OS/2 vanished from the world shortly after I bought it.

OS/2 was kinda like DLSS is now. Version 1 was buggy and useless but version 2 was incredible. OS/2 v2.0 completely blew my mind with what it could do. What a shame it was because it was faster and more stable than even Win98 which came out so many years later.

 

[wiyosaya]

I run all those things and don't have a Microsoft account. Take a look at Office 2010, it can be run WITHOUT anything except the CDKEY and it's compatible with Office 365 (garbage).

Thanks for the input. Older versions, yes, but it was my wife that wanted the latest stand-alone version of Office. She was running 2008. I forget what version she got, however, I think it is 2018. If you want to move forward, the experience is quite different.

 

[kimo1]

microsoft won't take those down? never knew those were a thing

There are even full dedicated forums for sharing customized Windows OSs (like Team OS).
This far stripping MS's spyware out and integrating latest updates is okay by MS.
Mass illegal activating Windows OSs for profit, now that's when MS comes in.

 

[Trapped Nowhere]

There are even full dedicated forums for sharing customized Windows OSs (like Team OS).
This far stripping MS's spyware out and integrating latest updates is okay by MS.
Mass illegal activating Windows OSs for profit, now that's when MS comes in.

so I would need to purchase a license to activate one of their stripped pro versions?

 

[kimo1]

so I would need to purchase a license to activate one of their stripped pro versions?

Nah, they have that covered too *wink, wink*.
Well, if you do have your own license, you can use that.

 

[ZedRM]

From what I can tell, the best "optimization strategy" for Windows 10, is to make sure it's installed on someone else's computer, not yours.

Except when someone needs to actually run Windows, then it's very much a less than great solution.

 

[corvard]

Because M$ knows how to use my computer better than I do.

I updated one of my PCs recently, to a newer release of Windohs 10. The most annoying thing about that update was that I now have to click the power button in the menu twice to get it to show "Shut Down" where I only had to click it once with the prior build. Seems to me that M$ has no clue about usability. It seems that somehow, clicking a control twice when it only had to be clicked once prior is a usability enhancement. You would think that M$ would understand something as basic as having to use only one click vs two WRT usability. But Nooooooooo. I bet M$ thinks this improves usability. One day, M$ might finally get their heads where there is sunshine.

Alt+F4 on desktop.

 

[captaincranky]

Except when someone needs to actually run Windows, then it's very much a less than great solution.

I was assuming, (correctly, I might add), that the person's saying that, already had a copy of Windows 7 on his, hers, or my, computer.

Unless of course you're being facetious, then ignore this.