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Weekend Open Forum: Is the iPad for You?

By Julio Franco ยท 81 replies
Jan 29, 2010
  1. Aolish

    Aolish TS Enthusiast Posts: 171

    no flash and no multi-task support is a disappointment. However ppl need to realize that battery life has to be considered when it comes to how long the device can actually be on without a charge. Some of you might already know that flash is a resource intensive application that will drain the battery like no tomorrow. Even if the user avoids flash videos such as youtube its impossible to avoid the outrageous amounts of flash ads that are found on todays webpages. Todays webpages are bombered with flash ads that are integrated into the websites. Sooner or later the user will eventually get into one and by the time you know it, your battery life might be half gone within 2 hrs.

    And thats just Flash. Lets also pile up multi-tasking on top of that and you'll get an ipad that will barely last half the day. Obviously this is all speculation on my part and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of things that can be probably done to get around it (like maybe an OPTION to enable or disable flash or multitask support).
  2. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +96

    There is one simple reply to all of this and in my view after getting that in, there is no need to spend anymore time talking about this device.

  3. Julio Franco

    Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Topic Starter Posts: 7,587   +965

    Quick note to those saying the iPad doesn't have a headphones jack, well it does, copied from Apple's site:

  4. lol! ... awesome dividebyzero! ... wonderful review!

    ... I'm a PC die-hard who gave the iPhone a chance only last year and have been truely surprised by how great I think that is ... so I guess I'll probably give the iPad a test sometime in the future when it gets to it's 3rd or 4th incarnation and it has more features.

    ... at the moment it's far too limited it what it can do ... neither tablet mac, nor iPod, as far as I'm concerned the iPad misses the mark completely.
  5. JudaZ

    JudaZ TS Enthusiast Posts: 284

    If battery life is more important then function, ok...then they made a great product.
    Since you cant use it for anything....dont turn it on and the battery life will be amazing.

    ..no thanx ..i'd rather have the nokia booklet3g. Great battery life, WITH function as well.
  6. Kibaruk

    Kibaruk TechSpot Paladin Posts: 3,267   +895

    Who would use a tablet to watch a movie??? Your wrists would kill you after like... 10 minutes.

    Apple could take a crap, wrap it in white and the fanbase who likes the matching colour with their clothes would buy it anyhow.
  7. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,350   +292

    Well, I can see where this type of product will appeal to the generic sheep in the population - easy to use, plenty of shiny apps to choose from, some great options for them. The target audience is one that likes the idea of an e-book reader, but wants something more, and won't care about multitasking or that it's not a full computer. I think we'll see lots of them, and Apple will come out smelling like a rose even though the hardware is inferior - they are better marketers than most in the industry.

    But, as for me, well I'm not satisfied with the limits of the hardware, just as I wasn't with the iPhone. I wager the majority of people who visit this type of site will be similar to me in these respects - we tend to like cutting edge and/or flexibility, not just simple cookie cutter systems. Quite simply, the readership of a site like TechSpot are probably not representative of the demographic Apple is targeting. And their target demo is much larger than us, unfortunately.
  8. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,350   +292

    Apple's carry case has a flap that allows the iPad to sit on a surface at alternate viewing angles. You can see pics of it on their site if you scroll down towards the bottom.


    Of course, I've been using tablet PCs for 5 years, one of the main ones being a slate style PC that we used in semi-industrial applications, and this type of case/stand system has been around for a very long time. Heck, you can get similar types of cases for most portable media players and/or media playing phones.

    For e-book experiences, though, I think the iPad is just too heavy. Some of the lighter e-book readers out there are very comfortable to hold for long periods, but the iPad would probably start to hurt your wrist after a while, and a stationary stand on a surface would just make eye-strain harder to deal with (can't easily mitigate reflections and light issues like you can when holding in your hand).
  9. topcoach

    topcoach TS Enthusiast Posts: 45

    I depend a lot on my 32 GB iPod touch, and I use many different apps on it daily. I always carry it around in my pocket so it is always accessible. It is by far, the best PDA I've ever had.

    Now that I have the option of getting a bigger iPod touch (ie. iPad), will I do it? Probably not. I do not see any compelling reason to carry around something bigger. If the iPad had multitasking, SD card reader, USB ports, the ability to play flash videos, and a headphone jack, they may have sold me on it. But since Apple decided to leave out these key features, I will pass on this deal. I will use my netbook computer instead.

    There is one reason why I may still consider an iPad, and that is to use it as an eReader. It all depends on what reading content I could get. I still find that the books I want to read (non-fiction) are not available on the Kindle yet. If they were, I probably would have bought a Kindle a while ago. However there is another eReader on the horizon, which I have my eye on. It is the Asus DR-570. It has a bright OLED color screen, an SD card reader, 3G, Wi-Fi and a 122 hour battery life, and weighs only 200 grams. The iPad as an eReader doesn't come even close to these specs. Although ultimately, what will determine my decision for an eReader is what content is available. I think this is key for whoever wants to win the eReader platform battle.
  10. anthonywilliam

    anthonywilliam TS Rookie

    Well I never got an iPod 'cos I wanted to download music from anywhere, I never got an iPhone 'cos although they look nice I could get what I wanted from a phone a lot cheaper, so I guess I wont be getting an iPad 'cos I like reading books without having to charge a battery every few hours and if I accidently left it on the train it's not a bother.
  11. IvanAwfulitch

    IvanAwfulitch TS Booster Posts: 218   +11

    You CAN download music from anywhere. You just have to add the mp3s to the itunes library and upload them to your iPod. You're not forced to pay and download music strictly from itunes.
  12. buttus

    buttus TS Enthusiast Posts: 180

    Small hard drive, no usb, limited expansion, no camera, no GPS, short battery life and a puny processor makes the iPad little more then a large iPod touch (which I already have one).

    I was initially excited about the prospect of an Apple tablet as I do photography as a side business and having my photos on a tablet was very attractive for me. However, I think Apple completely missed the target with this product. It is too expensive to be an e-reader, too limited in horsepower to be a fully functioning computer, and too limited in scope to be a true convergence device.

    This product will flop. Resoundly. Perhaps if they do a major product revision taking some of these issues to heart then maybe they can turn it around.
  13. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,128   +129

    I feel exactly the same way. I also do photography as a side business (I'm a Network Security Admin by day), and I was doing backflips in anticipation of the iPad. Once the iPad was unveiled though, I felt the distinct urge to make good use of a roll of TP. The iPad is garbage. Apple, as a company, is in desperate need of a makeover to catch up with the times.
  14. No thanks, but I think i'll skip on the iTampon. I mean cmon where do I start on this hunk of junk. Once again TurtleNeck Jobs has done it again. Being able to brainwash the mindless sheep to buying one of his shiny pieces of metal. I bet ya if Jobs pooped in a bag and sold it, the fanboys will buy the iPoop. Tablets have been around for a LONG time, hell Windows XP Tablet PC Edition has been around since the early 2000's and it actually works. I think that only the retards will buy this. I mean iPhone was alright. The MacBook Pro is alright, but this is a JOKE. So ya Apple, I hope you're ready for your downfall, because its coming. Your little money robbing scheme won't last forever
  15. I think if the iPad has a large availability of foreign language book titles and the ability to use alternate language dictionaries (which the Kindle has struggled to do well), it will have a leg up on other e-readers. I have not heard much about foreign language support but would be interested if anyone has information on this.
  16. It never ceases to amaze me how far people go out of there way to slam products they hate. There are many products i hate but i don't see them as a personal attack because they didn't make it my way...really...you sound like little girls that didn't get the right barbie. You do all realize this device wasn't made for you...It was made for the people who don't post angry responses on tech forums because there personal expectations weren't met. It was made for my mother/wife and people who care about facebook, they just want to push an icon and have it work. There is a hugh shift in casual gamers in the world, that outnumber the real gamers, the people that want to check farmville or play a card game, they are the leading game consumers not the console players add the fact you can read a book. The tech inept will buy this for its simplicity and the tech crowd the ones able to get over there ego will buy it because its a solid piece of hardware with possiblities.

    I have several friends that slammed this device but all paid a retarded price for there unlocked iphones which is just a phone with pretty useless programs.

    nuff' said.
  17. small hd? for who? you this has more than space for my wifes books and games
    no usb? for what a keyboard? its called bluetooth
    no camera? for what using skype, taking pictures? I have a camera why would you use a shitty smartphone camera, when i have a real camera.
    no gps? most people know there way around there own homes, you know homes where people will be reading there books and playing games.
    short battery life? Are we talking about the same product, do you own an ipad, maybe tell us the real usage is it close to the 10 hours apple states?
    puny processor? really have you do any research at all about the A4 processor?

    fully functioning computer? did i miss the memo about this being a fully functioning computer? Did anyone really think this was going to be a computer?

    it does certain things very well, thats it, i know this must be devastating that apple didn't make it to your high standards. Life in general must be very disappointing for you?
  18. this is exactly the problem with people they talk without thinking, a sign of the times.
  19. NeoFlux

    NeoFlux TS Booster Posts: 103   +12

  20. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Evangelist Posts: 603   +64

    I'm a PC guy through and through. I recently broke my Apple abstinence by buying an iPhone, and I absolutely love it. So, when the time came for Apple to announce their tablet, I was very interested... and very, very disappointed. I, a PC die-hard, was actually considering buying a tablet from Apple, but I must say, Steve Jobs made it the easiest thing I've ever done to write off the iPad as an illegitimate product with no "reason to be".

    What irritates me the most, is that the iPad isn't even a computer. It's a glorified iPod Touch, with a figment of a real OS. How else could they market the iPad as "magical" unless the OS were imaginary? The lack of Flash support is also ludicrous, as is their reasoning that HTML5 is the future. Yes, HTML5 is the future, but the iPad is in the present, and presently, Flash is king. The last thing I will gripe about (although there are many more) is the closed development for, execution of, and modification of ANY of their software and hardware. As a software engineer, I find it revolting to be unable to legally use or modify my computer, or to be unable to develop for my computer without being Divinely Bequeathed with the Holy Blessing from the Almighty Steve Jobs. This modus operandi strikes at the core of my freedom of ownership; a right I will not forfeit to the Con-artists of Cupertino.

    The iPad is an example of how Apple doesn't make products for consumers, but how they make consumers for their products. Dupe enough ignorant people into believing a lie, and suddenly, everybody will believe it and want it. Not I, Steve Jobs, not I.
  21. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,128   +129

    Your fanboy is showing. While I'm not as fluent in 'troll-speak' as you are, I'm guessing you're one of the drones The Onion was talking about that will buy anything new and shiny as long as it's made by Apple.
  22. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,706   +172

  23. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,098   +868

  24. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,262

    Appleinsider....Is that for the core fanatic ?

    I clicked....I saw....I was disappointed

    I was hoping they had Steve Jobs bobbleheads...but I was informed I can't have one as he's too busy running the company.
  25. NeoFlux

    NeoFlux TS Booster Posts: 103   +12

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