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Which is better? AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium 4?

By SharkFiNbowL ยท 177 replies
Apr 22, 2003
  1. tommie j

    tommie j TS Rookie

    i own a soltek sl-frn-rl with a barton 2800 AND an asus p4pe with a 3.06 and my 3.06 runs circles around the barton. i was really expecting more from my nforce system and was kind of dissapointed. but then again my intel rig cost twice as much.

    tommie j
  2. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,350

    Your dad sounds like one of those .. ok I'll leave that word out.. people that go get an MCSE and know diddly squat about computers before hand. Just because they can remember questions on a test they get a MCSE certification and a decent job then ruin the IT industry because they know crap about the job and have certification unlike most people.

    In other words. Don't listen to your parents. Your parents weren't using computers when they were born. You were. So who should you listen to? Our generation, not theres. Besides, parents think they know everything just because some "network admin" or "techie" told them so or they "read something" or "heard something on the news".

    I'll tell you right now, if you wanna be in the IT industry ever or want to be the least bit respected one of the best things to do is to learn who to trust, who to listen to, who to not listen to. If you can master that then you will be well on your way to becoming respected and successful.
  3. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 592

    the hammer

    will leave a smoking gun............opteron is rocketing........it's a not just around the corner thing........it will convert current intel enthusiasts over.....mark my words :grinthumb
  4. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,549

    Re: the hammer

    AMD hit Intel where it hurts when they released the Athlon. Now the Athlon 64 looks set to be even better. I'm going to buy one as soon as I have enough money (ie next year hopefully).

    Acid: As for IT certifications, I am a firm believer (in fact I know this for certain) that getting certified is the best thing you can do.

    People who go through the certification process pick up a great deal of knowledge that those who haven't, but have experience, simply don't know about.

    Its true that being certified doesn't neccessarily mean that you will be good at your job, but if you put talent, experience and certification together, then you are going to be extremely good at your job. Much better than with only one, or even two of those attributes.

    Talent + Experience + Knowledge = Amazing

    Get certified! I highly recommend it. If you don't have the talent for IT, then best find something else that you are good at.
  5. somekid007

    somekid007 TS Rookie Posts: 271

    LOL! yah the mini-itx form factor does seem to be pretty popular in the htpc and case mod communities

    just check out www.mini-itx.com
  6. Crybabytek

    Crybabytek TS Rookie Posts: 28

    Apples and oranges. What say you go with what your budget constraints are?

    True AMD does seem to have a heat generating problem and Intel (knock on wood) is the standard by which every other mfg. bases its specs on.

    But, IMHO, buying what what one can afford would be my only consideration.

    My students are always wanting to go for speed, which is where I came up with the observation that the only thing that that gets you is the ability to crash twice as fast. LOL
  7. XtR-X

    XtR-X TS Rookie Posts: 863

    Intel, currently with new Hyper Threading technology has an advantage of AMD. I've seen tons of benchmarks because everyone is dieing to know the answer to the question: What's better AMD or Intel?

    Performancewise: Intel
    Value for buck: AMD

    Plus, with Intel, you can actually utilize the 800MHz FSB now with an 8x AGP slot.
  8. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,350

    The 8x AGP slot has nothing to do with utilizing a 800mhz FSB.
  9. cromrell

    cromrell TS Rookie Posts: 41

    Office Use & 500MHz-1GHz

    I know we are all beating a dead horse here...
    Its hard to convert a Mac to a PC, and Lynx to Microsoft, and AMD to Intel.

    I manage about 50 PCs:
    We currently have:
    AMD K6, AMD Duron, AMD XP, Intel Celleron, Intel PIII, Intel P4.
    Our older K6 and Celleron machines are win98 w/ 128MB...
    Most of our office users are Duron, XP, PIII, and P4 w/ win2k and 256MB.

    Our company budget is about $500 for a new PC (parts + OS) & our new office users are getting AMD XP. I'm still on PIII 800, but will likely upgrade to something faster later this year (likely AMD), and I'll replace the K6s with new MB and AMD XP.

    One of the best things about AMD has been their MB compatability.. I can upgrade my Duron 900 to XP, but with an intel chip I'd have to replace my MB.

  10. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,977   +15

    Im defently with you on that one Comrell! Some Athlon boards support all the way from 200MHz FSB to 333MHz FSB. So its easy to go from Duron or XP1600, to a 2600, with the latest 333MHz FSB speeds. Nice huh!
  11. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 592

    it's cromrell

  12. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,977   +15

    Oh....right, Cromrell :blush: Sorry about that :grinthumb
  13. Dantrag

    Dantrag TS Enthusiast Posts: 135

    i've seen that the 3200+ is the fastest at the moment but thats benchmark wise so thats different in the real world..... i've got a athlon xp because intel just asks to mutch money other wise i would go for a p4c 3.2ghz with HT :D
  14. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 592

    big deal

    opteron has HT.......i would have waited for the 64, considering........no offense dantrag, i'm happy for you
  15. Dantrag

    Dantrag TS Enthusiast Posts: 135

    cool, but i thought HT was just used to fool windows that you have 2 cpu's. but the opteron wil be used for workstations (they would normally have 2 cpu's) so why have HT?
    btw i would have prefered a 3.2ghz p4 to my system now but if the athlon 64 or opteron give good performence i could change my mind:D
  16. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 592


    but not now,......believe me, it will take some time......you're ok
  17. somekid007

    somekid007 TS Rookie Posts: 271

    hehe i just remembered

    some of you might want to skoot down to the ExtremeTech's forums.
    they have a INTEL vs AMD discussion every week =D
  18. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,977   +15

    I sure hope it doesnt get like that here :dead:
  19. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 592

    intel is already scrambling

    Microsoft and Ibm has thrown their support amd's way.......add in HP and Dell, currently and soon......64 is here, to stay
  20. somekid007

    somekid007 TS Rookie Posts: 271

    hey, extremetech just did a review of the AMD Opteron 144 on nFORCE 3 motherboard. The AMD Opteron 144 blew away the Athlon XP 3200+ and essentially tied the Pentium 4 3.2 GHz. It costs somewhere in the $600 range for 1000 quantities, which is pretty much the same as the P4. Plus, it runs at only 1.8 Ghz, showing great potential for the soon to be released Athlon64.

    Too bad i had to buy a 2.4C system =(
  21. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,549

    When refering to other sites, can we please remember to supply a link. Others will appreciate it if you do.:)
  22. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 592

  23. somekid007

    somekid007 TS Rookie Posts: 271

    oops... sorry about that
  24. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,549

    Thanks for that link JSR.
    Athlon 64, I can't wait to get one!
    Prescott had better be good for Intel's sake.
  25. XtR-X

    XtR-X TS Rookie Posts: 863

    I know this is late, because I was on vacation for a while or I either missed this one, but the thing became an eyesore and I must reply. FYI, no one sold a board that supported DDR800 and had a 8x AGP slot. Recently, this kind of a board came out.
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