Windows 10 surpasses Windows 7 to become most popular desktop OS

[cliffordcooley]

The start menu is not what makes Windows 7 seem dated.

 

[captaincranky]

The start menu is not what makes Windows 7 seem dated.

Then what does? Nadella saying so?
I'll take a few more guesses.

The fact all roads in 7 don't lead to the Windows store?

The fact 7 doesn't force updates on you, whether you want them or not?

Oh wait, if you "upgrade the Windows 10 upgrade to 10 Pro", you get to pick the time of the forced update?

The fact that Media Center in win 7 is free? It's much more noble to have to pay for it in 10.

And then there's the fact that M$'s telemetry in win 7 isn't nearly enough to keep M$ fully informed.

Did I miss anything?

 

[Namtrooper]

Fake News !

Witch hunt!

 

[captaincranky]

Fake News !

Witch hunt!

Six of one, a half dozen of the other

 

[James00007]

Windows 10 surpasses all other versions of Windows to become most troublesome and least stable desktop OS

Better never than late

 

[captaincranky]

Windows 10 surpasses all other versions of Windows to become most troublesome and least stable desktop OS

Better never than late

What an absolutely horrible thing to say about M$'s "(currently ?). "most popular OS". Keep up the good work!

 

[Mugsy]

It took what, THREE YEARS?

Many people moved to Win10 *only* because support for Win7 with the latest hardware is drying up, leaving users with no choice if they wish to upgrade their hardware.

I personally am still using 64bit Win7. It required great vigilance on my part to avoid having Microsoft's new Spam Delivery Device (aka Win10) installed on my computer.

Win10 is just awful. It is SUCH a bandwidth & resource hog, I've seen computers that should be "super fast" slowed to a crawl under Win10 as it tries to do too much downloading/updating in the background.

The interface is just plain ugly too.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Windows 10 surpasses all other versions of Windows to become most troublesome and least stable desktop OS

Better never than late

In my opinion that is absolutely true. Windows 7 may in my opinion seem dated, But is is also the least troublesome OS I have ever had. Even before release while Windows 7 was still in Beta, the OS was less troublesome than Windows 10.

I've got applications that when installed will not save user settings. I have to use the old "Take Ownership" registry tweak to get the application to work as it should.

I finally updated to the 1809 build a few days ago, to find I no longer had access to the Realtek Sound Manager after installing Realtek Drivers. I had to go online to find some fix that Microsoft had broken. Ironically it was Microsofts fix but they never bothered to include it in 1809 before releasing to public.

We don't currently have the Bandwidth required for the frequent build releases.Therefor every six month I have to manually update all the machines (with faulty build no less).

So yes I want the advancements of Windows 10 (which BTW can still be put in Windows 7). I can even live with an after market start menu. But I also want less headaches, which Windows 7 presented from release.

 

[Knot Schure]

Forgive them, for they know not what they do....

 

[Knot Schure]

I wonder how used would it be if it wasn't forced down peoples throats.

I agree. I upgraded accepting the inevitable from Windows 7 while it was 'free'. Yes I accept there have been some improvements over Windows 7 but it is still a dogs breakfast of components and settings all over the place. However my main complaint is echoed by many online that it doesn't appear as tolerant of hardware differences as did Windows 7. I have had constant BSODs recently, more than I've had since DOS and Windows 3.1 days, yet the error reports don't specify what's causing the problems that didn't exist under Windows 7 they are too general and nobody online seems to be able to decipher them at all. Updating all drivers doesn't work, checked all hardware is still seated properly and it is, at random times there's just the OOPS, and it crashes. I must say I have seriously considered going back to Windows 7 - one computer at work is still on Windows 7 and what do you know, no problems!

I have started to notice a few Win 7 machines being 'deactivated', and then failing the auto activation when you select it. I've had to call the phone number to re-active them. Almost makes me believe they are trying to frustrate W7 users....

One even is a Dell with the bios key built-in. Strange times indeed.

 

[captaincranky]

I have started to notice a few Win 7 machines being 'deactivated', and then failing the auto activation when you select it. I've had to call the phone number to re-active them. Almost makes me believe they are trying to frustrate W7 users....

I had one Win 7 machine deactivated when I stuffed a video card in, while I was off line. I got it back activated without a phone call, but that was well over a year ago.

I didn't think a video card alone was credited with enough "points", to deactivate the system.

I obviously can't speak to your issues, since my experience appears to be in a different time frame.

Don't be so cynical. M$ would never intentionally try to frustrate a customer, force Windows 10 down their throat, or release an update before it was totally checked out and ready to go.

 

[Underdog]

I would not be surprised to find MS adding the odd dash of poison to W7 updates to cause trouble and force people towards W10.

 

[Bats Dude]

I would seriously like to say thanx to MS for Win 10! Within 90 days of it's release I had overa 100 people wanting Win 7 back, and every one of them paid $100 gladly for the spyware 10 to be obliterated completely and replaced with 7! More popular than 7? LOL! Not hardly!

 

[captaincranky]

I would not be surprised to find MS adding the odd dash of poison to W7 updates to cause trouble and force people towards W10.

My "guess" is, (yes, I said guess and I meant guess), is that M$ shoehorned as much telemetry as they could into the consolidated updated package they forced on users during the transition to Windows 10.

I shut down updates completely after I initially install the OS, but after any available Service packages. I also read what an update does, and bypass the ones with vague explanations of their purpose.

In other words, nonsensical sh!t that says, "helps Windows work better", doesn't pass muster, gets unchecked, and M$ gets to keep my copy of it.

FWIW, I have never gotten as much as a notice from M$ that Windows 10 was available, let alone having them "accidentally" install it.

 

[Knot Schure]

I had one Win 7 machine deactivated when I stuffed a video card in, while I was off line. I got it back activated without a phone call, but that was well over a year ago.

I didn't think a video card alone was credited with enough "points", to deactivate the system.

I obviously can't speak to your issues, since my experience appears to be in a different time frame.

Don't be so cynical. M$ would never intentionally try to frustrate a customer, force Windows 10 down their throat, or release an update before it was totally checked out and ready to go.

I still struggle to deal with the fact that they've thrown their customers under the bus.

 

[captaincranky]

I still struggle to deal with the fact that they've thrown their customers under the bus.

And metaphorically speaking, the spin M$ is putting on it would be, "didn't these numb skulls realize just how big this bus was when they simply walked out in front of it". (Cue laughter in the board room).

Listen, this is a topic that triggers me in a major way, and I could go on literally for pages, trying, (albeit I fear quite futilely), to explain just how stupid, naive, needy, and victimized by propaganda this most recent generation is. Their belief system is nothing, if not manufactured by the government, the media, and minority interests.

M$ told people "Windows 10 is free", and then they pulled the standard high pressure sales tactic of time limiting the offer. They were lying through their teeth, but hundreds of millions of people took the bait anyway.

And M$ is in the position that they can blithely say to their customers, "if you don't like our system, buy some other one". (Cue more snickering in the board room).

 

[Knot Schure]

And metaphorically speaking, the spin M$ is putting on it would be, "didn't these numb skulls realize just how big this bus was when they simply walked out in front of it". (Cue laughter in the board room).

Listen, this is a topic that triggers me in a major way, and I could go on literally for pages, trying, (albeit I fear quite futilely), to explain just how stupid, naive, needy, and victimized by propaganda this most recent generation is. Their belief system is nothing, if not manufactured by the government, the media, and minority interests.

M$ told people "Windows 10 is free", and then they pulled the standard high pressure sales tactic of time limiting the offer. They were lying through their teeth, but hundreds of millions of people took the bait anyway.

And M$ is in the position that they can blithely say to their customers, "if you don't like our system, buy some other one". (Cue more snickering in the board room).

Preaching to the choir here pal. I see what they are up to. It almost like they are going from a software-only company, to a data-analytics group. And whilst in a free-market economy, that is surly up to them, I don't believe it is ethical also.

Especially given they won't give us a cut-down paid-for version, that functions as an OS ONLY. It is not like I am asking for ANYTHING for free - I just do not want them to have my data / telemetry.

At this juncture, I wish them nothing but the worst in life.

Looks like you and I will be buried side-by-side, clutching our W7 retail boxes.

Peace.