Windows 11 24H2 is now incompatible with USB scanning devices, too

[SethNW]

Didn't Microsoft fire all their internal beta testers and substituted them with virtual machines running automated tasks? Which us why their ability to catch bugs is garbage tier. Yes, there are insiders, but those are just volunteers. And I suspect more three for "we updated 100 machines, how many did cone back online?" type of test. Since their feedback tends to get ignored till it os bigger problem. Since we had issues in the past where insiders reported it and MS still released update to public anyway. And you can't even expect them to maje sure their own stuff work with their own stuff either. Case in point would be that time when their own Defender was flagging all Chromium browsers as malware, including Microsoft's own Edge, due to mistake in definition file. You would think they would catch that. But apparently not. And then people wonder why I got hard time believing that Microsoft skipped Windows 9 because of potential for compatibility issues due to 95/98... they don't have foresight to make sure their browser doesn't get flagged by their own antivirus as malware. :-D

 

[herbertv2]

Seems to me Windows 11 is on the fast track of joining, 8, Vista, and Millennium. Odd how every other itteration of Windows is hated and buggy since Millenium was the sucessor to 98.

 

[bexwhitt]

Microsoft has stated anyone who loads an update before it's forced is a beta tester, so don't be needy on windows.

 

[ET3D]

It wasn't that long ago Microsoft fired many thousands of beta testers and introduced "Insiders".

From what I could find, looks like firing beta testers happened in 2014, which is quite long ago.

 

[ET3D]

No one wants all of their files scanned by AI and uploaded to Microsoft.

There are good enough arguments against unnecessary AI that aren't hyperbole. No need to cheapen the discussion.

The way I see it, AI is best used for image scaling and real-time translations.

Seems to me like an extremely narrow view, considering that AI is already quite useful for image editing and art generation in general, and that a reasonably large percent of the population uses ChatGPT and the like.

 

[umeng2002]

Yes and they still look AI. A photo editor from the 90s still made photo realistic images.

 

[snOrdquist]

That is beta version, it is open to the public. You can test internally, but the ultimate test is the public release because there are countless hardware, software configurations and use cases. They can't possibly cover all of them with internal testing.

They could cover a minimum test set, that would be nice. Theirs gets bricked on the regs maybe.

 

[SirStephen]

I think Microsoft's infamous USB Cart of Death needs to make a comeback in some form.

 

[JamesBlond]

Windows 11 will never ever be fixed, and Microsoft Want to force you to use it, because if you pay for an use a broken system and accept it, your a stupid ***** and don't deserve to be free from the corruption.
They made a bloated over weight fat as hell OS which sucks and they want people to adopt the crap they made, when they know perfectly well Windows 10 is a Far better OS than windows 11

 

[ecw0647]

All those diversity hires are realy showing their worth. haha

Or maybe they didn't hire enough.

 

[ecw0647]

There aren't any Linux Distros working on integrating AI. I find that interesting for one major reason. Most people who use Linux are amoung the most tech savvy, if the most tech savvy amoung us are not demanding AI features it really makes you wonder how useful, important and cutting edge those features are.

Makulu Linux is integrating it in a big way . The difference between Apple, linux and MS is that Linux is a community interested in making personalized software that works, the other two are businesses interested in maximizing profit. Each has very different goals.

 

[paradoxide]

I've been dual booting/multi-booting various Linux distros(primarily OpenSUSE and Manjaro) with a Windows system that came as the OEM installed OS for several years. Last year Microsoft broke my bootloader with an update, basically wiped it out. Over the summer reports were that this happened again, so I have intentionally held back on even booting it for fear of Windows breaking my primary OS(Linux) again. Looks like Microsoft is pushing me to further validate my decision to abandon their products. I've kept it around to use a tax software package. Really a Windows VM, if that at all may be my next move, just to keep doing my taxes using the same workflow.

 

[paradoxide]

I remember installing a network printer in linux and then when I wanted to print a page it wouldn't stop spitting out empty pages. The constant glitching of the updater that required me to do some manual steps because it failed to update itself and I could go on. That doesn't mean it is not usable, just not perfect, and not necessarily better than windows for the average user.

For the average user, no most Linux distros are not suitable replacements. Though, I wonder if "for the average user" who is not posting on techspot, if chromeOS, which is still Linux underneath would replace 80% of the use cases for Windows in the non-professional setting.

 

[Dustyn]

What's next!?
USB keyboards and mice?

 

[penfolduk]

And Microsoft wonder why people aren't moving over to Windows 11 as quickly as they'd like...

When it's problems with specific hardware or software, like the Ubisoft problems, it may well be that it's due to something the 3rd party vendor has done that, although working in prior versions of Windows, doesn't comply with Windows guidelines so breaks Windows 11.

But when it's a more generic protocol, like the scanners issue, it does put the spotlight on Windows 11. Although even then, it might track back to 3rd party drivers or chipsets.

I remember years ago at work there was a fire at a data centre that damaged or SAP print server kit.
Despite rebuilding it apparently exactly the same, we had problems with some print functions for almost 2 years afterwards. Ironically, one of the workarounds was to use the more recently introduced Windows printing options.

 

[ZedRM]

This is simply not true. Finding and eliminating all bugs is simply impractical.

Wrong! But I'm guessing you're too young to remember a time the world had the internet and had a necessity for proper debugging, testing and quality assurance. Because you see back then doing "patches" require making a patch disc on floppy or CD and making sure people got it. It was expensive and a PITA. The internet has made life better in some ways and worse in others. Companies being lazy and NOT properly testing their software before release is one of the latter.

 

[Y2JB47]

Wrong! But I'm guessing you're too young to remember a time the world had the internet and had a necessity for proper debugging, testing and quality assurance. Because you see back then doing "patches" require making a patch disc on floppy or CD and making sure people got it. It was expensive and a PITA. The internet has made life better in some ways and worse in others. Companies being lazy and NOT properly testing their software before release is one of the latter.

I’ll be sure to tell all my colleagues that we’ve all been lazy developers over the past couple of decades, I can’t believe we never realized. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[ZedRM]

I’ll be sure to tell all my colleagues that we’ve all been lazy developers over the past couple of decades, I can’t believe we never realized. Thanks for the heads up!

You're very welcome! Any time. Do your due diligence the right way in future.