Windows 11 24H2 is now incompatible with USB scanning devices, too

I remember installing a network printer in linux and then when I wanted to print a page it wouldn't stop spitting out empty pages. The constant glitching of the updater that required me to do some manual steps because it failed to update itself and I could go on. That doesn't mean it is not usable, just not perfect, and not necessarily better than windows for the average user.
To be fair, manufacturers release trash drivers constantly. Printers have been notorious since their inception of being buggy regardless of operating system.
 
I’ve been a MS advocate since their MS DOS days. I am a Windows 11 beta tester. But I must say I’ve lost to all interest in Windows. All the things that go wrong is exasperating. And those wonderful 0x0000f error messages! One would think they could come up with something friendlier the a Hex number! Lately I’ve been using an Apple laptop with an M2 processor. It’s to elegant! I prefer their Sonoma operating system far more than I do Windows.
 
I normally jump on the new versions when they launch, but I didn't with 24H2 because of Microsoft's obsession with AI integration. Looks like it was an omen.
 
I normally jump on the new versions when they launch, but I didn't with 24H2 because of Microsoft's obsession with AI integration. Looks like it was an omen.
Everyone is doing AI, it's coming whether you like or want it. All platforms are getting it either accept it or simply stay off the internet, either way AI is here.
 
I’ve been a MS advocate since their MS DOS days. I am a Windows 11 beta tester. But I must say I’ve lost to all interest in Windows. All the things that go wrong is exasperating. And those wonderful 0x0000f error messages! One would think they could come up with something friendlier the a Hex number! Lately I’ve been using an Apple laptop with an M2 processor. It’s to elegant! I prefer their Sonoma operating system far more than I do Windows.
I still like Windows. Works for what I use it for.
I don't run into majority of so called issues.

Beta testing isn't what it once was, in some cases wasnt/isn't all that great. Testing is important but companies look at value these days. AI is becoming more and more. While AI isn't likely to solve all issues it is going to do things that a person once did.
MS has fired plenty of their own testers and fired testers when they take over companies. The company will rely on the public like most companies do these days.

MS is a Trillion dollar company not by paying everyone. It's all about business and in business nothing is fair just as in life.

Find a company who don't do this, you wont.
 
Everyone is doing AI, it's coming whether you like or want it. All platforms are getting it either accept it or simply stay off the internet, either way AI is here.
There aren't any Linux Distros working on integrating AI. I find that interesting for one major reason. Most people who use Linux are amoung the most tech savvy, if the most tech savvy amoung us are not demanding AI features it really makes you wonder how useful, important and cutting edge those features are.
 
Are scanners/printers with driver installs unaffected? Who uses a scanner or printer without installing a driver? I have never done that. Never even heard of eSCL.
 
There aren't any Linux Distros working on integrating AI. I find that interesting for one major reason. Most people who use Linux are amoung the most tech savvy, if the most tech savvy amoung us are not demanding AI features it really makes you wonder how useful, important and cutting edge those features are.
It's coming is the point. Every major company is investing and using AI. Its already here. I don't use or care about Linux personally, I don't worry what they use or don't.
All the major companies are currently using or developing AI.
Maybe Linux are developing one or plans on doing AI at some point. In business you either create, follow or get left behind.

Companies force stuff on people that's nothing new. They don't care if you want a feature or not, it's coming because that is what they have invested in. Doesn't always pay off but with so many getting involved in AI, we are going to have to get use it being a feature whether we want it or not.
 
And this is why I have reverted my machines back to 10 , with 10 it is very rare an update goes sideways. Got so tired of updating 11 and something always broke, not working or half baked . Microsoft just can't get their sh!t straight with 11. If they concentrated more on the functionality of the OS instead of the eye candy they would be a lot better off.
 
It's coming is the point. Every major company is investing and using AI. Its already here. I don't use or care about Linux personally, I don't worry what they use or don't.
All the major companies are currently using or developing AI.
Maybe Linux are developing one or plans on doing AI at some point. In business you either create, follow or get left behind.

Companies force stuff on people that's nothing new. They don't care if you want a feature or not, it's coming because that is what they have invested in. Doesn't always pay off but with so many getting involved in AI, we are going to have to get use it being a feature whether we want it or not.
Okay, but Linux isn't a company. It's a group of developers making an open source operating system around what developers and engineers need. Linux is a kernel inwhich hundreds of different groups build their OS on top of and NON of them are trying to implement it.
 
Old cliche... "One man's junk is another man's treasure." Reborn as "One man's bug is another man's feature." Now the next wonder of the world is AI. It hallucinates without drugs or alcohol. Even the CEO of NVIDIA, the largest corporation in the world by market value says that it will be years before the hallucinations stop. Meanwhile, their stock keeps going up. Sometimes you just gotta laugh... it hurts too much to cry.
 
It wasn't that long ago Microsoft fired many thousands of beta testers and introduced "Insiders". Like they thought unpaid volunteers would do a better job? Hell no... they didn't think that for a moment.
 
I guess I'll wait a bit longer before I update my laptop.

Even on my work Macbook Pro I have to delay updates since there is a nasty bug where your NVME can start constantly writing and reading, effectively wearing itself down. MacOS 15 Sequoia has been a buggy mess since they launched it this summer. Is Apple trying to copy MS?
 
After using windows 11 for a few months I can’t shake or answer the fundamental question ‘why does this os exist?’

Windows 10 works perfectly well and could just continue to evolve. 11 adds nothing of value. It moves stuff around and breaks things sure but I’ve yet to note a single thing that’s better.
 
It's called due-diligence. Before the internet, every company did it because they had no choice. One didn't just release buggy, glitchy software. And before you say things are different now, no it's not THAT different. Companies are simply lazy.
It's called due-diligence. Before the internet, every company did it because they had no choice. One didn't just release buggy, glitchy software. And before you say things are different now, no it's not THAT different. Companies are simply lazy.
It's called due-diligence. Before the internet, every company did it because they had no choice. One didn't just release buggy, glitchy software. And before you say things are different now, no it's not THAT different. Companies are simply lazy.
It's called due-diligence. Before the internet, every company did it because they had no choice. One didn't just release buggy, glitchy software. And before you say things are different now, no it's not THAT different. Companies are simply lazy.
It's called due-diligence. Before the internet, every company did it because they had no choice. One didn't just release buggy, glitchy software. And before you say things are different now, no it's not THAT different. Companies are simply lazy.
It's called due-diligence. Before the internet, every company did it because they had no choice. One didn't just release buggy, glitchy software. And before you say things are different now, no it's not THAT different. Companies are simply lazy.


This is simply not true. Finding and eliminating all bugs is simply impractical.
 
Agreed. Every time I tried Linux it was more problematic than Windows. Doesn't mean I won't try again, but it's certainly not a magical replacement for Windows.
I have been using Linux for 20 years. It has come a long way in that time. In recent years I have switched to using Linux as my primary OS. Yes Linux has it's problems too but is fairly quick remedy any major glitch quicker than Windows. I still keep a Windows system running to stay familar with it. I find I get rusty if I am away too long.
 
I guess I'll wait a bit longer before I update my laptop.

Even on my work Macbook Pro I have to delay updates since there is a nasty bug where your NVME can start constantly writing and reading, effectively wearing itself down. MacOS 15 Sequoia has been a buggy mess since they launched it this summer. Is Apple trying to copy MS?
LOL
 
It's coming is the point. Every major company is investing and using AI. Its already here. I don't use or care about Linux personally, I don't worry what they use or don't.
All the major companies are currently using or developing AI.
Maybe Linux are developing one or plans on doing AI at some point. In business you either create, follow or get left behind.

Companies force stuff on people that's nothing new. They don't care if you want a feature or not, it's coming because that is what they have invested in. Doesn't always pay off but with so many getting involved in AI, we are going to have to get use it being a feature whether we want it or not.
That's also how bubbles exist. Consumers aren't demanding AI. Businesses aren't making money on AI. The way I see it, AI is best used for image scaling and real-time translations. No one wants all of their files scanned by AI and uploaded to Microsoft. I don't even trust Apple to handle AI privacy well.
 
My Windows 10 works perfectly. Months ago when I went to finally upgrade a bunch of 'Win 11 compatible' family Win 8 machines (which also worked perfectly) to Win 11, basic functionality was broken on all of them, like a wifi card that would only be identified every so many boots, etc, etc. I switched all of those machines to Win 10 and now they're working perfectly. Microsoft can't get basic functionality working and they wonder why Win 10 use is at 60%? Everyone knows they're clumsily trying to shove their AI toy and other unneeded crap down everyone's throats at the expense of working software, which is why the smart users are happily clinging to 10's lifeboat while the mighty Titanic sinks around them. 'Broke a hundred million USB peripherals'... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Wow. Just wow. I'll bet the Edge nag systems work fine tho, right? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Speaking of software and OS I had a lot of windows 95/98/xp crashes, but haven't seen a windows 10/11 crash in ages if ever. Keep in mind windows 95 was a few MB in size, whereas windows 11 is a few GB. The complexity is orders of magnitude greater and still it is more stable. It seems to me things have improved quite a lot. Sure, problems still exist and sometimes they are hard to detect and fix.

You are comparing it wrong. You need to compare current Windows to its peak, not to its infancy. With that kind of argument, corporations and governments will keep taking our rights, our salaries and benefits and we're still going to say things that things have improved quite a lot by comparing it to the slavery days.
 
You are comparing it wrong. You need to compare current Windows to its peak, not to its infancy. With that kind of argument, corporations and governments will keep taking our rights, our salaries and benefits and we're still going to say things that things have improved quite a lot by comparing it to the slavery days.
Windows 8 was PEAK! :)
 
24H2 was in development for what ? almost a year? insider builds for almost as long? it gets released last month and there are what two or three updates that have broken something ..... pffft , what a joke. Keep it.
 
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