Windows 11 on unsupported PCs won't receive OS updates

Dimitriid

Posts: 1,337   +2,624
It's more about drawing a hard line in the sand somewhere and trying to cut off the most security vulnerable issue and help is live forward in a world where security is in a position that doesn't leave so many vulnerable to the types of attacks we've Seen as of late.

I say it's good if you're hardware is 4+ years old just stick with 10 til you're ready for new hardware.

I know that's what Microsoft says it's about, I just haven't seen anything credible that would convince me that's both effective and absolutely necessary, specially when we know we can have fairly secure OSes like Linux that can patch security issues without prematurely updating to new kernels or untested software for years.

So if Microsoft truly "loves linux" as Satella famously claimed a few years back, maybe they can learn from it instead of trying to fix poor software implementation with hardware requirements.
 

CrisisDog

Posts: 253   +140
Apple drove me away with their constant hardware updates, and now looks like Microsoft will be doing the same. Whether I like it or not, I have been becoming more proficient with Linux, with openSUSE being my flavor of choice.
 

yukka

Posts: 1,005   +158
Just in case you had any doubts about Microsoft not wanting your money this time around if you're an enthusiast or commit the sin of still using a perfectly good PC built in 2017 well, there you go folks.

Seriously at this point the thin foil hat person in me is thinking Microsoft *must* be being heavily lobbied by hardware manufacturers that just want perfectly good systems to go into a landfill somewhere.

It does seem suspicious that a Ryzen 1 can’t run it. Just plain odd.
 

psycros

Posts: 3,726   +4,735
I think we've reached a tipping point where new OS versions, particularly from Microsoft, are no longer a thing to get excited about. Its mostly change for its own sake these days, making everything more difficult with no discernible benefit.
 

captaincranky

Posts: 17,684   +6,463
Outstanding! This is the best news I've heard since they released Windows 8..(y) (Y)

(IMHO, they can disable the store while they're at it as well).
 

Tantor

Posts: 215   +413
The only reason to upgrade is if MS comes out with a game that runs only in Win 11. Such as Elder Scrolls 6.

Most of my gaming is in Linux. Dying Light, Valheim, Dominions 5, Civilization.
 

hahahanoobs

Posts: 3,869   +1,920
M$ claim to care about PC security but they will leave PC users running CPUs they have decided not to support w/o security updates.

GG.
Like the people staying with XP and W7 to this day? If the people don't care, why should anyone?
 

cliffordcooley

Posts: 13,075   +6,376
Like the people staying with XP and W7 to this day? If the people don't care, why should anyone?
It's not about whether people care or not. Some people can't afford to upgrade every time corporate decides to drop support. Hardware support is one thing. But refusing to sell software support just to sell new hardware is wrong.
 

MaitieS

Posts: 112   +128
Why are some people acting like not being able to upgrade to Windows 11 is the end of the world? Windows 10 will be supposed for the next 4 years and everyone knows that first year-two of new Windows are usually a maintenance stuff. People probably already forgot about it but W10 was kind of trash till at least 1704 (Creators Update).
 

cliffordcooley

Posts: 13,075   +6,376
People probably already forgot about it but W10 was kind of trash till at least 1704 (Creators Update).
It is still trash and gets worse by each build release. Which is why I'm not moving forward with Microsoft. Windows 7 was thier peak. It only gets worse moving forward.
 

nagynorbert97

Posts: 12   +2
I can install Windows 11 on unsupported devices and it won't bug me with updates that usually only lead to weather notifications and lost data? "I see this as an absolute win!" as someone would say.
 

yukka

Posts: 1,005   +158
lol Suspicious?!
I'll be happy to look at your research data.
What features are lacking from a Ryzen 1 that make it incapable of running Windows 11 and make it impossible for Microsoft to adapt Windows 11 to run on that cpu? I don't have a ryzen 1. I have a PC that supports direct x 12 and has a supported windows 11 cpu. Its still odd that a processor 2 short generations older than my recent cpu is deemed as unsuitable to run windows 11 by the company making the OS.
 

hahahanoobs

Posts: 3,869   +1,920
What features are lacking from a Ryzen 1 that make it incapable of running Windows 11 and make it impossible for Microsoft to adapt Windows 11 to run on that cpu? I don't have a ryzen 1. I have a PC that supports direct x 12 and has a supported windows 11 cpu. Its still odd that a processor 2 short generations older than my recent cpu is deemed as unsuitable to run windows 11 by the company making the OS.
You know who isn't complaining about Zen being left out?
AMD.
 

MaitieS

Posts: 112   +128
It is still trash and gets worse by each build release. Which is why I'm not moving forward with Microsoft. Windows 7 was thier peak. It only gets worse moving forward.
Not true lmao but keep being buried in your cave where you think that previous thing was better. I am guessing that you are probably the one who also was hating on Vista meanwhile W7 is Vista SP2.
 
Last edited:

Loadedaxe

Posts: 53   +73
It's stupid to force users to upgrade to a newer computer when there is a shortage of all kinds of hardware worldwide that is going to last for possibly another year or two. There are some seriously retarded people at M$
MS is not "forcing" you to do anything. You think that Win 11 was just created in the last year? No, they were working on it way before the hardware issues started which is why if you have an older system or cant afford to buy/upgrade, you still get Win 10 support until 2025. Nothing has changed for you at all.
 

MaitieS

Posts: 112   +128
And you guess wrong. I never had a problem with MS until Windows 8. Windows 7 was the last OS with any semblance of user control.
I think that with W11 they will hopefully fix the overall issues which previous Windows versions had. W7 was much better because it was just Vista on SP2 meanwhile W8 and W10 are just re-skin of previous Windows without proper fixes which I think they are aiming for with W11. Hopefully in a year or two W11 will feel fresh and we will get rid of tools which are there since Vista-7
 

cliffordcooley

Posts: 13,075   +6,376
I think that with W11 they will hopefully fix the overall issues which previous Windows versions had. W7 was much better because it was just Vista on SP2 meanwhile W8 and W10 are just re-skin of previous Windows without proper fixes which I think they are aiming for with W11. Hopefully in a year or two W11 will feel fresh and we will get rid of tools which are there since Vista-7
They're not going to fix anything as long as they are forcing updates.
 

yukka

Posts: 1,005   +158
Not trolling at all.
Just pointing out you are more concerned about Zen support than AMD.

That says a lot.
Your first reply to me was some bs about research. Re-read my first comment and work out how you disagreed when you are inferring the same by suggesting AMD aren’t bothered that they will have to make money by selling new cpus to people for windows 11. Intel silent. AMD silent. OEMs silent. Microsoft facilitating upgrades through obscelescense.
 

DjoCoeur

Posts: 44   +28
MS is not "forcing" you to do anything. You think that Win 11 was just created in the last year? No, they were working on it way before the hardware issues started which is why if you have an older system or cant afford to buy/upgrade, you still get Win 10 support until 2025. Nothing has changed for you at all.
I meant forced to buy a new computer for those who really want Windows 11 but can't have it with their actual hardware. Those who don't want 11 aren't forced to anything but only for 4 years, which is still not a long time.
 

captaincranky

Posts: 17,684   +6,463
Not true lmao but keep being buried in your cave where you think that previous thing was better. I am guessing that you are probably the one who also was hating on Vista meanwhile W7 is Vista SP2.
Well no. Vista was the beta test for Windows 7. The only thing it had going for it was native SATA drivers. Keep in mind that it was only SATA 1 which was en vogue at the time.

Windows 7 saw a different marketing approach to marketing the various different "models" of W7, primarily the Windows Media Center becoming stock. (Which BTW, was taken away in Windows 10). The Windows Store, was apparently stuffed in instead.

With respect to your assessment of W7 being a service pack of Vista, I would categorically state that Vista was actually Service pack 4 of XP. Or, as I stated earlier a public beta of W7.