Windows Phone 7 initial sales estimates underwhelming

By Jos · 45 replies
Nov 10, 2010
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  1. UT66

    UT66 TS Rookie Posts: 143

    ms needs new and fresh ideas of their own. copy-paste was a good paradigm in 1981 (Apple Computer popularized that with the Lisa and Macintosh os)
  2. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,270   +91

    I can't say I'm surprised. WP7 is not necessarily a failure, but it will definitely never be a success with Android and iOS on the market. And yes, I used the word never.
  3. hassaan

    hassaan TS Rookie Posts: 90

    To put it all in a nutshell; WP7 is late, has a bad history with previous mobile OS and that Android / iOS have already captured much of the market. But we can't discount WP7 just yet. So we'll have to wait to see how its evolves (or not)?
  4. sMILEY4ever

    sMILEY4ever TS Booster Posts: 158

    They're a tad bit late.
  5. KG363

    KG363 TS Guru Posts: 515   +9

    I really like winmo7. I hope it takes off. The more competition, the merrier
  6. aj_the_kidd

    aj_the_kidd TS Rookie Posts: 555

    I wouldnt say never, more its very very very unlikely.

    One of the best things that Android had going for it was, it wasn't Apple, people wanted an iPhone alternative and the Android OS delivered just that. Windows 7 just doesnt have that edge that will make the masses migrate
  7. gayfish

    gayfish TS Rookie

    bill gates should do a ad for wp7.nevertheless i think it would be a huge success.
    android.iphone have their fanboys. but till now windows mobile had only hateboys..
    so would take time..
  8. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +96

    WP7 is a refreshing but 'incomplete' platform for now, they need to burn more cash + effort to 'complete' it for it to become competitive with the rest of the lot; I think it will take about 1-2 years period for them to do it. If they do it rightly, they may end up having the best user interface with the right feature set and most importantly the 'user experience'.
  9. fritz123

    fritz123 TS Rookie Posts: 56

    i think that the windows phone didnt just get enough attention. the buyers are exposed more on the existing systems like apple and android since they are a lot more publicized and a lot more reviewed. maybe its one effect of starting late in the race. windows is a good platform. it just needs to catch up a little more
  10. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,383   +172

    If that's saturated, what do you think about the PC market, which sold 306 million in 2009?
  11. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,669   +1,102

    The marketing is at fault here and also because of very few good phones being released and hose that are good have only a limited number in stock.
    They were betting on the "7" naming scheme and they didn't really put enough effort.
  12. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,270   +91


    You said its "very very very unlikely," but then you go ahead and pretty much explain the very reason why I used the word never.
  13. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,270   +91

    Trying to compare both markets just nullifies any possible chance of argument.

    You can't compare the mobile market with the PC market. I assure you the PC market doesn't sell 200,000 PCs every day. Not to mention, that in the long run, you actually end up paying even more than what a PC costs when you purchase a phone.
  14. jazboy

    jazboy TS Rookie Posts: 112

    Microsoft has to bring some special on Mobile OS otherwise it will be failure only.
  15. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 856   +121

    I bought a new phone three days ago. Checked out Win7 Phone, then touched the iPhone 4 and was BLOWN AWAY! There is no catching up to iPhone's speed, apps, etc. I'm freaking playing Final Fantasy 1 and 2, Resident Evil 4, and more. People are fed up with Windows Mobile and they have no chance to succeed.
  16. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 856   +121

    The only thing that made me even want to check out Win7 Phone was the "media stream" from WMP12. That is a cool feature I use on PS3.

    However it wasn't enough to sell me on it. The iPhone 4 is ahead of it's time hardware wise. I have no more patience for Windows "Mobile" software.
  17. foxrox

    foxrox TS Booster Posts: 39   +34

    I think this is more a sign of a lousy economy than an underwhelming product. While I would love to have a Win7 phone, I don't have the discretionary funds to drop everything to run out and blow money on the neatest new electronic toy to hit the market.

    How many iDrone customers are locked into a service agreement and cannot just arbitrarily decide to change everything because something different and better has been released?
  18. Foxrox, sorry, but I can't agree with you. You come off as a little bitter.

    The recently released Galaxy S phones sold 1 million in a span of a month in the US, so I can't buy into the bad economy excuse. WP7 despite being backed by huge advertising and marketing dollars sold lousy and is just not desirable to the general public. What's "different and better" for you in regards to WP7 is only a matter of opinion and apparently doesn't seem to carry over into the public based on the muted response for this phone.

    Finally, you seem to live in some vacuum where there will not be any new android/RIM phones released in the near future or the iPhone 4 being released in early 2011 on Verizon that will take away from the already small attention WP7 is getting. Keep dreaming thinking that there are millions upon millions of already satisfied iPhone customers wetting in anticipation of jumping into WP7's near non existent unproven ecosystem once their contracts expire. If people are already satisfied and feel the system they're in is good enough, why jump to something else?
  19. foxrox

    foxrox TS Booster Posts: 39   +34

    No, not bitter... better. :) I am a BlackBerry user. The iDrone is more of a toy and a status symbol than it is a serious productivity tool. And that's OK if you fit into that niche market. And, Android is pretty much a toy that works with more cellular providers for those that do not want to use AT&T services and/or don't want to own something with Apple's name on it.

    What I was referring to is that not everyone has the financial ability to cancel a service agreement and pay early termination fees on a whim simply because a new piece of hardware has been released. A lot of new phone sales are undoubtably people that are able to buy new hardware and stay with the same service provider while their existing service agreement is still in force. If WP7 is only compatible with one cellular provider at launch, then it seems sort of natural that the response will be muted. If it could have been used with any cellular provider at the launch, the response probably would not be nearly as muted.

    I also don't expect Apple fanboys to jump on WP7 for the same reason diehard Microsoft fans wouldn't consider owning an iDrone.

    But, I am very glad to hear that iDrone customers will soon have a choice besides AT&T. It's high time. Now all they need is an unlocked version that will work with Sprint or any other cellular provider they want to use. The proprietary gestapo garbage Apple is famous for is for the birds.

    As WP7 is further perfected and launches with multiple cellular providers I think we will see it start to gain greater market share. The features WP7 offers (from what I am reading) may give business users a much more integrated and productive solution compared to the BlackBerry, which is currently the defacto standard in smartphones used for business. Here again, companies are not going to replace all of their deployed and functional BlackBerry phones with WP7 on a whim, but I would not be surprised to see WP7 devices begin to roll out as a replacement as the platform matures.
  20. foxrox

    foxrox TS Booster Posts: 39   +34

    aj_the_kidd said, "One of the best things that Android had going for it was, it wasn't Apple, people wanted an iPhone alternative and the Android OS delivered just that."

    ...true statement.
  21. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,730   +379

    I disagree. The iPhone 4 hype is ahead of it's time. Only now is the iPhone with it's latest update actually superior in hardware to my HTC Touch HD handset which is almost 2 years old, and it's only a little bit better in spec.

    - 5 megapixels
    - Front camera with VGA resolution
    Wow, stuff I've had in my HTC hand set for 2 years.

    - 960x640 resolution
    Finally beating my 2 year old handsets 800x480 that was far superior to the 480x320 of the iPhone 3 series.
    And from what I understand the same Retina display is used in Samsung Galaxy series (I think it might even be a Samsung panel).
    So you can get the same level of hardware in other devices, so can't really be ahead of it's time when others have the same hardware.

    In my opinion the OS/UI and software is what sets it apart. If the latest Windows Phone OS had been out 2 years ago it might have had a better chance. But now they are only going to be stuck playing catchup.

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