This is for a friends PC running XP (I'll get the version and post it later, but I believe it to be SP3) IE8, Firefox latest as of last week. None can reach the search engines, although they can reach other sites and do email. I have run Malwarebytes and SBS&D on it. Hijackthis reports a lot of 02 host redirects, and the host file was locked but I was able to access it in safemode and replace it with a plain vanilla non-writeprotected. I have not looked for another (like in Windows/help). The box had AVG security but it may be freshly installed. I plan to remove it and put him on MSSE when this is fixed. I plan to go over to his house this evening (in a couple hours) and start with the suggested steps from the Preliminary Instructions sticky. Any other advise before then?