A rumored $999 RTX 3080 Ti will launch in January to take on the Radeon RX 6900 XT

pcnthuziast

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And the 20 series is still nearly impossible to get at anywhere near msrp and will likely continue to be into next year. Throwing the msrp of pc tech around is meaningless these days since what people actually pay almost always ends up being more by a significant enough amount to matter. Especially when it comes to gpus.
 

Bamda

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Thank you AMD for doing something that NVIDIA would not do on their own. Drop down on you knees and thank the mighty AMD! Bytches!
 

Irata

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Yes but I doubt Nvidia would kill off their 3090 so easily with this move. One thing comes to my mind: If Nvidia activates "pro features" for 3090, maybe that would be an argument.
On the other side, I expect more contenders from AMD'S side too. Similar to Ti or Super models of Nvidia.
Activating pro features would be one option, but that would mean reducing Titan prices considerably and I‘m not sure they would want to go there.

I dunno, I kinda thought that the RTX 3090 already looked pretty silly without help.

This just makes nVidia look like crooks and the people who bought the RTX 3090 look like absolute fools. :joy:
Ticking off customers who are willing to go for the (consumer) high end does not seem like a good idea to me.

Before, the 3090 did not look like great value compared to the 3080 but it was the high end, I.e. more than double the memory, more cores etc.

If the 3080 is released with the rumored features at $999 MSRP, you have to pay 50% more for the 3090 but only get a little bit extra vs. the 3080Ti.

Hard choices. Maybe releasing the standard 3080 on the big 102 die was not such a good idea.
 

Krackan

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Please stop, you have zero proof. Publish an article when you have something from NVIDIA. Whether it comes from Schrier or Hong Kong, none of it is true without actual proof.
 

mrvco

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To be fair, I don't think any gamers buying the RTX-3090 are value or perf/$ shoppers. The 3090 is big and expensive and as a result, ownership is a relatively exclusive club.
 

Lionvibez

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Wouldn‘t that make the 3090 look very silly though ?

You mean the $1500 cost wasn't already doing that :)

Lower bandwidth memory, and probably much less of it. The article claims 20GB for the Ti, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it slot in at 12GB or so.


Wouldn't make sense to go 12GB when your competition is at 16.

Either they go 16GB themselves or 20GB so they can claim it has more Vram than the radeons.

Imagine paying for RTX 3090 and then Nvidia comes out with the 3080 Ti. Kinda what happened to RTX 2080 Ti owners when RTX 3070 was announced.

Except the 2080Ti owners have been on their cards for years. Anyone on a 3090 has only had it for like a month. So that comparison doesn't really work.
 
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Mr Majestyk

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At best the Ti variant will be 5-7% faster, so only about 7% slower than the 3090. This will make the 3090 DOA and that's not even considering the 6900XT has already done that for most people.

I'd consider the 3080 Ti at $799, but I'll take the 6800XT any day just to give Nvidia the middle finger like I'm doing to Intel.
 

texasrattler

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And the 20 series is still nearly impossible to get at anywhere near msrp and will likely continue to be into next year. Throwing the msrp of pc tech around is meaningless these days since what people actually pay almost always ends up being more by a significant enough amount to matter. Especially when it comes to gpus.
Nvidia stopped making the 20 series back in like Aug/Sept. The only ones left are what stores have in stock which is mainly online, the rest are in pre builds.
 

Squid Surprise

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Typical Nvidia. Giving the biggest of shafts to their most loyal customers by providing something that's virtually the same, for 30% cheaper, mere months after selling it to you. Bravo
While I understand someone being angry when they buy something and then another product arrives that’s about the same yet cheaper (I bought 3 Maxwell titans right before the 980Ti was released), the product you bought isn’t any worse.

Hence, the 3090 isn’t suddenly a poorer card because the 3080Ti exists.
 
While I understand someone being angry when they buy something and then another product arrives that’s about the same yet cheaper (I bought 3 Maxwell titans right before the 980Ti was released), the product you bought isn’t any worse.

Hence, the 3090 isn’t suddenly a poorer card because the 3080Ti exists.
Not a poorer card, just a poorer value. Then again, if you were buying a 3090, you're probably not that price sensitive to begin with, so it shouldn't matter.
 

Squid Surprise

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Not a poorer card, just a poorer value. Then again, if you were buying a 3090, you're probably not that price sensitive to begin with, so it shouldn't matter.
If you ALREADY bought it, its value remains the exact same it always was - unless you planned on reselling it.
 

Avro Arrow

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Yes but I doubt Nvidia would kill off their 3090 so easily with this move. One thing comes to my mind: If Nvidia activates "pro features" for 3090, maybe that would be an argument.
On the other side, I expect more contenders from AMD'S side too. Similar to Ti or Super models of Nvidia.
You know, I really hope not. When I heard of a possible RX 6900 XTX with water cooling, I cringed. It brought back memories of another card that should have never existed, the Fury-X.
 

Avro Arrow

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Activating pro features would be one option, but that would mean reducing Titan prices considerably and I‘m not sure they would want to go there.


Ticking off customers who are willing to go for the (consumer) high end does not seem like a good idea to me.

Before, the 3090 did not look like great value compared to the 3080 but it was the high end, I.e. more than double the memory, more cores etc.

If the 3080 is released with the rumored features at $999 MSRP, you have to pay 50% more for the 3090 but only get a little bit extra vs. the 3080Ti.

Hard choices. Maybe releasing the standard 3080 on the big 102 die was not such a good idea.
I couldn't agree more. An RTX 30-based Titan would have 48GB of GDDR6X and would cost at least $2500USD. That's an extra $1000 tacked on to the already ludicrous $1500 price tag of the RTX 3090.
 

Avro Arrow

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Not a poorer card, just a poorer value. Then again, if you were buying a 3090, you're probably not that price sensitive to begin with, so it shouldn't matter.
That does seem to make sense on the surface but how many people become wealthy by literally THROWING money away like that? Also, how many millionaires are gamers (sure there's some but most are usually getting drunk on the golf course). I'm willing to bet that the RTX 3090 is primarily the card for guys who AREN'T rich but want to front like they are. Kinda like the guys who live in trailers and drive BMWs. :joy:
 

meric

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You know, I really hope not. When I heard of a possible RX 6900 XTX with water cooling, I cringed. It brought back memories of another card that should have never existed, the Fury-X.
I have no worries for that because I know AMD took their lesson after so many disastrous products. Hopefully we are not going back to pre-RDNA1 and pre-ZEN era. Big Navi seems like a fine-tuned architecrure to me (just like the zen3) due to the fact that AMD had a long time working on consoles with some similar feats, I hope I won't be wrong in this.