Aftermarket RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 card prices revealed

Rdmetz

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Until the consoles are out and a direct comparison is done you cannot make this statement like its a fact.
Well technically you'll never be able to make it fact as they will run different code amd nothing can be exactly the same on both.


But based on performance metrics we've used in the past to make these types of cross platform comparisons the specs of the Xbox put it in 2080 territory.

True console can deliver optimization and with time do more than similar pc hardware but there's no guarantee of that nor that it's there day one so I'm just going on the specs.
 

VariableSpike

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Meh, I'll probably just end up buying an FE 3080 (as it seems sound functionally, and has the least "bling-bling" about it) - the thing is, many of us at this price point will probably just end up watercooling the card anyway, so I don't really see the point in dumping extra money on a cooler, especially considering that in the past FE cards have had the best oc's and the like with modified cooling as NVIDIA supposedly bin them
 

Suisam

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I find it stupid that the GPU itself is basically the cost of the rest of the system to support it. Im going to wait until they release their in between cards because Id hate to get a 2080 and find out that a 2080 super was a tiny bit more with a huge gain.

I guess that's the world we live in and I can be patient.
 

godrilla

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And why I wasn't stupid and sold mine in July for $1100
I just got an offer for my 2080ti hybrid for $700 but am wondering if I should take the risk of being graphics card less potentially till 2021 if the shortages are rumored true for both teams and tares. Also has anyone seen that article from Tom's hardware stating that Ampere might cause another crypto mining craze? ( if thats true I would hold on to my card until I have a replacement)
Thoughts?

Another issue for low vram ampere is would 2nd hand market be willing to purchase a 10 gig and or 8 gig vram cards in a year or 2?
 
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Mr WW

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I remember back in 2012 when they said the PC-market is dead and now look at those prices for just a video card!
 

Mister_K

Posts: 1,950   +629
I understand they can't make this stuff free, but this is getting ridiculous. I remember when the 8800 ultra came out and everyone thought the $700 price tag was insane.
Inflation and cost of R&D as well as no competition is at big play here.
 

JamesBlond

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I have supported the work of NVIDIA with over 2000 gaming friends, we are no longer going to, I would rather stop gaming than support the criminal abuse NVIDIA applies to its prices for those faithful to them, like cutting off the hand that feeds you, no thank you, Hope Nvidia closes down and loses everything
 

godrilla

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QuestioQuestQuestioQue
You should certainly pay attention to your own conscience. I would only sell if you think you need a year long break from gaming.
Thank you for the feedback. It would be 1 or 2 quarters maximum. I always say if you can wait one or 2 years you will definitely save money from hardware and game sales.
Final thought the delta gap between the $700 I can get for my 2080ti hybrid and by the looks of this post 3090 hybrid would probably be an extra $1000 out of pocket before taxes. If I wait till the 3080ti with rumored even slightly faster more dense vram in q1 2020 I risk the price of my 2080ti hybrid losing even more value but the delta should be slightly less for the out of pocket upgrade and no gap delay on being graphics card less for 2 quarters potentially.
 

godrilla

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QuestioQuestQuestioQue
I remember back in 2012 when they said the PC-market is dead and now look at those prices for just a video card!
They have been saying this for decades, but now the industry like Sony and Microsoft are embracing PC. Also the Titan and or replacement nomenclature were historically priced from $1000 to $3500. The only difference now is that board partners have their take on that market potentially leading for more innovative solutions than traditional founders edition designs. The EVGA kingpin will probably take the crown with its 360 mm rad but the pricetag to match it north of $2000.
Also the 3090 is not your typical pc gamer market it definitely targeting the enthusiast market who often and more so recently get shafted!
 

Karl Hungus

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The price is only going to go down regardless of an exception. Point is you can get one at that price if you look hard enough. Not sure why that triggers some people?
They're 'triggered' because they were one of the, ahem, 'people' that bought one. They are worth MAX $350 now. If you buy one for more, you're a *****...period. I always find it funny that GPU buying nerds that spend so much seem to think they're somehow privileged or smart for ignoring what a stupid purchase they've made, yet you wouldn't feel very smart if you worked for an investment firm and lost a bunch of cash on a poor investment. Same goes for those that buy new trucks and SUV's. Would you walk into your financial planner and say 'here's $50,000...put it in something that will lose 50% when I walk out the door please.' Morons separated from their cash since cash was a thing I guess.
 

Squid Surprise

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They're 'triggered' because they were one of the, ahem, 'people' that bought one. They are worth MAX $350 now. If you buy one for more, you're a *****...period. I always find it funny that GPU buying nerds that spend so much seem to think they're somehow privileged or smart for ignoring what a stupid purchase they've made, yet you wouldn't feel very smart if you worked for an investment firm and lost a bunch of cash on a poor investment. Same goes for those that buy new trucks and SUV's. Would you walk into your financial planner and say 'here's $50,000...put it in something that will lose 50% when I walk out the door please.' Morons separated from their cash since cash was a thing I guess.
Well, I'd actually look at online prices before you label everyone a *&*&*...

Here's the CHEAPEST used 2080 Ti on ebay right now... and the auction is still going... last I checked, 33 bidders...

That's $800 CAD.... so about $600 USD (plus shipping, etc).... please share me a link to a $350 one...
 
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godrilla

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They're 'triggered' because they were one of the, ahem, 'people' that bought one. They are worth MAX $350 now. If you buy one for more, you're a *****...period. I always find it funny that GPU buying nerds that spend so much seem to think they're somehow privileged or smart for ignoring what a stupid purchase they've made, yet you wouldn't feel very smart if you worked for an investment firm and lost a bunch of cash on a poor investment. Same goes for those that buy new trucks and SUV's. Would you walk into your financial planner and say 'here's $50,000...put it in something that will lose 50% when I walk out the door please.' Morons separated from their cash since cash was a thing I guess.
Now? or when there will be a product for sale that would cost competitively in terms of performance! The 3070 with its limited vram is more than a month away and will cost $499 the 3060 is yet to be announced, the red team cards are also rumored to be in the $500 mark and lastly the limited stock amount rumored from both camps paints a different picture!
You can say $350 subjective makes sense but objectively not so much!
 

ScottSoapbox

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You can ask AMD to put pressure on the market all you want but I doubt they would like to release products just to help sell their competition's. If people want AMD to compete with Nvidia just so they can get Nvidia products for cheap, then (IMO) they shouldn't compete at all.
I don't think you understand how competition works.
 

Eric Mozzone

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I don't understand why the price is an issue.

"Gamers" don't need much more than a 3070 which is being released at $499.

Cards like 3080 and 3090 are for professionals. If you can't afford it, buy something cheaper.

"Professionals" - especially Youtubbers and editors will make their money back on these purchases within a month.

And if all else fails, there's plenty of lightly used 2080Ti's on the market for $500!!!

The 2080Ti was a 1080p and 1440p beast with Ray Tracing.
Why buy a used 2080ti at -35% performance at the same price point?
 

Roy Mepham

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I don't understand why the price is an issue.

"Gamers" don't need much more than a 3070 which is being released at $499.

Cards like 3080 and 3090 are for professionals. If you can't afford it, buy something cheaper.

"Professionals" - especially Youtubbers and editors will make their money back on these purchases within a month.

And if all else fails, there's plenty of lightly used 2080Ti's on the market for $500!!!

The 2080Ti was a 1080p and 1440p beast with Ray Tracing.
I don't agree! Gamers will want to play at Max settings with RTX at the highest framerates possible; price is just something that you have to suffer if you want to pay the cost.
The 3070 will probably be adequate for a year or so, but the 3080 will offer better value money as it will fare better for longer.
Anyone that has a GTX1080 or below will be chomping at the bit!
 
I understand they can't make this stuff free, but this is getting ridiculous. I remember when the 8800 ultra came out and everyone thought the $700 price tag was insane.

However, I will remain open minded going into this. If the 3090 has twice the performance of the 3080 then I suppose the price is justified. Looking at the size of the 3090's heatsink I wouldn't find that surprising.
The 8800 Ultra was released in 2007, so 13 years ago. $700 13 years ago is about $1k now. That puts it right smack in the middle of the 30xx series. Considering the performance difference, the new cards are a bargain.
 
I don't agree! Gamers will want to play at Max settings with RTX at the highest framerates possible; price is just something that you have to suffer if you want to pay the cost.
The 3070 will probably be adequate for a year or so, but the 3080 will offer better value money as it will fare better for longer.
Anyone that has a GTX1080 or below will be chomping at the bit!
I'm a fairly typical gamer (affluent 42yo male who grew up with computers) and I'm still happily rocking a 970. It's unlikely I won't be upgrading to a 3070. I could happily afford a truck full of 3090s, but the 3070 will be more than enough GPU for the next 5 years.
 
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MaxSmarties

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740€ for a 3080 is not that much... I'd like to see a comparison with Founders Edition regarding cooling and noise
 

LuckyMenace

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Look at it this way, a top of the line 3090 is “only” a little over 2x the price of the 3080. My grocery store sells top of the line organic avocados for 4x the price of a “regular” avocado. Top of the line will always be ridiculously priced regardless of its a graphics card, a sports car, or an avocado. You are paying for exclusivity and privilege, not bang for your buck.