AMD confirms big power-efficiency gains with Radeon 7000 GPUs coming November 3

Puiu

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That much is a given. What AMD had in RDNA 2 is very much equivalent to what Nvidia had with Turing: first release tech is always fairly basic. It will be interesting to see if they continue with the current structure, where the TMUs perform the ray-triangle intersection calculations and the BVH traversal is done via the shader cores, or whether they go with something completely new.
As long as it works nobody will care how they achieve it :)

But AMD can't afford to be slower than Ampere, that's for certain.
 

neeyik

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As long as it works nobody will care how they achieve it :)
Yep - this is all that ultimately matters. At the end of the day, if the performance is good, the image quality looks perfect, the price is tenable, and the heat output doesn't destroy Antarctica over the weekend, then AMD will do just fine.
 

kira setsu

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Thats a long *** time to wait for info. damn long, suspiciously long.

nvidia may be expensive...af, but they create some incredible tech, I had a 980ti that was a trooper for years until I upgraded to a 6800xt, which has been a bit problematic from day 1.

AMD in my eyes cant just compete on price, they need something powerful and stable with software that can back it up, adrenalin is a bloated pig of a program, my card is a rasterization beast yet a raytracing kitten.

I'll wait on all the cards from both to release and read the reviews and info but if AMD gets smoked in any category completely then my money goes to nvidia, nvidia knows this so they really dont have to worry about prices in a way.

gaming is my hobby, if dropping a bundle means I get a card that does everything without making a peep then im burning that cash, I'm not dealing with a "decent" or "alright" gpu anymore when prices are like this.
 

Puiu

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Thats a long *** time to wait for info. damn long, suspiciously long.

nvidia may be expensive...af, but they create some incredible tech, I had a 980ti that was a trooper for years until I upgraded to a 6800xt, which has been a bit problematic from day 1.

AMD in my eyes cant just compete on price, they need something powerful and stable with software that can back it up, adrenalin is a bloated pig of a program, my card is a rasterization beast yet a raytracing kitten.

I'll wait on all the cards from both to release and read the reviews and info but if AMD gets smoked in any category completely then my money goes to nvidia, nvidia knows this so they really dont have to worry about prices in a way.

gaming is my hobby, if dropping a bundle means I get a card that does everything without making a peep then im burning that cash, I'm not dealing with a "decent" or "alright" gpu anymore when prices are like this.
The Adrenaline software is miles ahead of what Nvidia has in terms of bloat :)

We could discuss features and other aspects of it.
 
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MarcusNumb

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Thats a long *** time to wait for info. damn long, suspiciously long.

nvidia may be expensive...af, but they create some incredible tech, I had a 980ti that was a trooper for years until I upgraded to a 6800xt, which has been a bit problematic from day 1.

AMD in my eyes cant just compete on price, they need something powerful and stable with software that can back it up, adrenalin is a bloated pig of a program, my card is a rasterization beast yet a raytracing kitten.

I'll wait on all the cards from both to release and read the reviews and info but if AMD gets smoked in any category completely then my money goes to nvidia, nvidia knows this so they really dont have to worry about prices in a way.

gaming is my hobby, if dropping a bundle means I get a card that does everything without making a peep then im burning that cash, I'm not dealing with a "decent" or "alright" gpu anymore when prices are like this.

Ofc if you are paying almost or more than 1000usd for a GPU, you require the best of the best.
I think AMD is catching up, it takes time. That's why people are looking at other aspects than just performance. Let's wait for the reviews.
 

EdmondRC

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AMD will most likely raise their prices, but let's hope they only raise them a little. I expect the 7900 XT to be at least $1200, but hopefully the 7800 XT is like $749 and the 7700 XT like $549. It would be nice to see no generational price increase, but unlikely. The purpose of the MCM design is to get higher yields, so hopefully they pass some of that along to the consumer and take a huge chuck out of Nvidia's market share. $900 for a rebranded 4070 was ridiculous, some of that likely is because Nvidia opted for the 4nm process node. AMD using the 5nm node should mean that the their chips are a bit cheaper to produce as well, but they are still moving to a more expensive process than the 7nm nodes.
 

Puiu

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AMD will most likely raise their prices, but let's hope they only raise them a little. I expect the 7900 XT to be at least $1200, but hopefully the 7800 XT is like $749 and the 7700 XT like $549. It would be nice to see no generational price increase, but unlikely. The purpose of the MCM design is to get higher yields, so hopefully they pass some of that along to the consumer and take a huge chuck out of Nvidia's market share. $900 for a rebranded 4070 was ridiculous, some of that likely is because Nvidia opted for the 4nm process node. AMD using the 5nm node should mean that the their chips are a bit cheaper to produce as well, but they are still moving to a more expensive process than the 7nm nodes.
It shouldn't be that hard for them to undercut Nvidia since they are using the regular 5nm process node and chiplets. But this is just wishful thinking on my part :)
 

Revolution 11

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Thats a long *** time to wait for info. damn long, suspiciously long.

nvidia may be expensive...af, but they create some incredible tech, I had a 980ti that was a trooper for years until I upgraded to a 6800xt, which has been a bit problematic from day 1.

AMD in my eyes cant just compete on price, they need something powerful and stable with software that can back it up, adrenalin is a bloated pig of a program, my card is a rasterization beast yet a raytracing kitten.

I'll wait on all the cards from both to release and read the reviews and info but if AMD gets smoked in any category completely then my money goes to nvidia, nvidia knows this so they really dont have to worry about prices in a way.

gaming is my hobby, if dropping a bundle means I get a card that does everything without making a peep then im burning that cash, I'm not dealing with a "decent" or "alright" gpu anymore when prices are like this.
You don't have to justify or sell your purchase of Nvidia's new cards to us, lol. You are a big boy (or girl), you do you.
 

terzaerian

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nvidia may be expensive...af, but they create some incredible tech, I had a 980ti that was a trooper for years until I upgraded to a 6800xt, which has been a bit problematic from day 1.
Well I went from a 1070 Ti to a plain 6800, and have had zero issues. Frankly the experience has been an overall improvement, because AMD's resident just fetches your driver updates, and doesn't force you to sign in to anything to perform what should be, for security's sake as much as anything else, a basic task.