AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT GPUs briefly sell below MSRP in Europe

Fastturtle

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The 6500xt needs to be no more then $75 USD for me to even consider it though I wouldn't buy one new until it's down to $50 USD simply due to how badly it's gimped. There is very little reason unless you can't get anything else and after investigating GPU's recently for SR-IOV I discovered the Radeon Pro W5500 for a damn decent price. Yes performance isn't going to kill a 1070 but it at least competes with the 1060 and has one other advantage, it's MSRP is only $399 though they're going for a bit more.
 

Sausagemeat

Posts: 1,597   +1,421
Like being most sold AMD GPU on week 4 perhaps on Mindfactory?

I checked availability around release and it was very good.

That will be then, this is now. At current situation anything that is available is good thing. You see, when something is really available, scalpers have much harder time. Thank 6500XT for driving prices down.
Why are you defending this dumpster fire of a product? Reviewers have unilaterally condemned it. The people who use it will never buy a Radeon again for the rest of their lives.

You just love anything with an AMD badge on it. AMD could release an actual turd and you would be on here telling everyone it’s good because no one’s buying it and it’s available! I say, “could” but tbh that’s basically exactly what happened with the 6500XT!
 

HardReset

Posts: 1,665   +1,321
Why are you defending this dumpster fire of a product? Reviewers have unilaterally condemned it. The people who use it will never buy a Radeon again for the rest of their lives.
Because reviewers who condemned it were simply ignoring some aspects. Let me help you: https://www.techspot.com/bestof/gpu-2022/

Now what's recommended choice for Entry-level GPU (Less than $300)? That is, what you call dumpster fire. That is, something you say reviewers unilaterally condemned. And why it's recommended? Because it's available. Why it's available? Because of reasons it was condemned. Reasons I was able to point out, but reviewers were Nvidia biased.

I see double standards here. And once again, I was right. This time it took less than a month ;)
You just love anything with an AMD badge on it. AMD could release an actual turd and you would be on here telling everyone it’s good because no one’s buying it and it’s available! I say, “could” but tbh that’s basically exactly what happened with the 6500XT!
I already have told why that's not actually bad product. Let me remind:

- It's mobile, not desktop GPU
- It's AMD's and worlds first 6nm GPU
- It has very small die size

Those reasons explain why it has excellent availability. At same time, what Nvidia did to solve GPU shortage? Did Nvidia create new GPU for desktop that has smaller die? No. Did Nvidia make new GPU using something else than Samsung 8nm / TSMC 16nm? No. Did Nvidia actually do anything to solve GPU shortage? Well, they renamed RTX3060 to RTX3050 and that's it.

Like it or not, 6500XT was greatest GPU release for long time. It totally solved GPU shortage. Now problem is prices, not that new GPU's are actually available. That is something most reviewers, including Techspot's, totally missed. But I didn't.
 

Beerfloat

Posts: 506   +964
Like it or not, 6500XT was greatest GPU release for long time. It totally solved GPU shortage.
I've rarely seen someone so completely lose it over a GPU review. By all means keep making this narrative more and more fantastic. It is hilarious.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is enjoying a confluence of factors that brings better pricing for GPUs that are actually worth having.
 

HardReset

Posts: 1,665   +1,321
I've rarely seen someone so completely lose it over a GPU review. By all means keep making this narrative more and more fantastic. It is hilarious.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is enjoying a confluence of factors that brings better pricing for GPUs that are actually worth having.
Not my problem if you cannot accept truth and see bigger picture. After 6500XT launch there has not been any sort of GPU shortage. Coincidence? High pricing is still problem but with good availability prices will come down eventually.
 

Bobbydpue

Posts: 327   +217
Like being most sold AMD GPU on week 4 perhaps on Mindfactory?

I checked availability around release and it was very good.

That will be then, this is now. At current situation anything that is available is good thing. You see, when something is really available, scalpers have much harder time. Thank 6500XT for driving prices down.
The 6500XT did not drive prices down. The point the OP was trying to make is that scalpers likely bought them out and are finding it hard to make a significant profit on them since they aren't desirable.
 

Bobbydpue

Posts: 327   +217
Not my problem if you cannot accept truth and see bigger picture. After 6500XT launch there has not been any sort of GPU shortage. Coincidence? High pricing is still problem but with good availability prices will come down eventually.

If you would have looked at all the available GPU's before the launch of the 6500XT you would have seen the trend for more availability had already started and there likely the same GPU's available before the launch than after.
 

Bobbydpue

Posts: 327   +217
Because reviewers who condemned it were simply ignoring some aspects. Let me help you: https://www.techspot.com/bestof/gpu-2022/

Now what's recommended choice for Entry-level GPU (Less than $300)? That is, what you call dumpster fire. That is, something you say reviewers unilaterally condemned. And why it's recommended? Because it's available. Why it's available? Because of reasons it was condemned. Reasons I was able to point out, but reviewers were Nvidia biased.

I see double standards here. And once again, I was right. This time it took less than a month ;)

I already have told why that's not actually bad product. Let me remind:

- It's mobile, not desktop GPU
- It's AMD's and worlds first 6nm GPU
- It has very small die size

Those reasons explain why it has excellent availability. At same time, what Nvidia did to solve GPU shortage? Did Nvidia create new GPU for desktop that has smaller die? No. Did Nvidia make new GPU using something else than Samsung 8nm / TSMC 16nm? No. Did Nvidia actually do anything to solve GPU shortage? Well, they renamed RTX3060 to RTX3050 and that's it.

Like it or not, 6500XT was greatest GPU release for long time. It totally solved GPU shortage. Now problem is prices, not that new GPU's are actually available. That is something most reviewers, including Techspot's, totally missed. But I didn't.
Here is a quote from the link you posted "Essentially, it’s a bad product with numerous issues that costs too much for what it is." That is spot on. Nothing is better than spending money on the 6500XT. It's less video card than a RX 580 released in 2017 while costing more. It did not solve the GPU shortage you clearly don't track the market every day like a lot of other people do or you would have noticed availability wasn't affected by the 6500XT. The reason there was availability of the 6500XT was because it wasn't a good video card.

NVIDIA sold their FE cards only at select retailers and limited the way people could buy them to make them very difficult to buy more than one card. AMD put their own cards behind a paywall, but mostly just never put them back in stock once they sold out.

From reading your post you're simply a fanboy. AMD, just like NVIDIA, doesn't care about you. Companies don't care about you. Unless AMD is taking care of your dog after NVIDIA kicked it I don't see why you are defending them.
 

HardReset

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The 6500XT did not drive prices down. The point the OP was trying to make is that scalpers likely bought them out and are finding it hard to make a significant profit on them since they aren't desirable.
Scalpers simply have not enough money to buy everything if supply is large enough. More likely that's what happened. 6500XT made scalpers impossible too buy all.
If you would have looked at all the available GPU's before the launch of the 6500XT you would have seen the trend for more availability had already started and there likely the same GPU's available before the launch than after.
Quite a logic there. Making GPUs become available does not affect on availability of GPUs 🤔 That's only possible if every 6500XT was bought by scalpers.
Here is a quote from the link you posted "Essentially, it’s a bad product with numerous issues that costs too much for what it is." That is spot on. Nothing is better than spending money on the 6500XT. It's less video card than a RX 580 released in 2017 while costing more.
What you would expect from cheap mobile GPU with ultra small die size? Telling that mobile GPU should match previous desktop GPU with much lower power consumption? And price? Look at current market.

You simply don't see big picture, I do.
It did not solve the GPU shortage you clearly don't track the market every day like a lot of other people do or you would have noticed availability wasn't affected by the 6500XT. The reason there was availability of the 6500XT was because it wasn't a good video card.
Right, card that is recommended as best alternative on less than $300 category does not improve other cards' availability https://www.techspot.com/bestof/gpu-2022/

Think again how stupid your claim is. Also 6500XT sold like hotcakes when looking at real sales data. So yes, 6500XT was quite popular based on facts.
NVIDIA sold their FE cards only at select retailers and limited the way people could buy them to make them very difficult to buy more than one card. AMD put their own cards behind a paywall, but mostly just never put them back in stock once they sold out.
Retailers didn't have good practices to limit scalping as I looked.
From reading your post you're simply a fanboy. AMD, just like NVIDIA, doesn't care about you. Companies don't care about you. Unless AMD is taking care of your dog after NVIDIA kicked it I don't see why you are defending them.
No, I'm not fanboy. I'm intelligent person that sees bigger picture. Something most reviewers and you cannot see. That is very simple to prove, just answer this simple question:

Would current GPU market be better if AMD didn't release 6500XT on desktops at all?

AMD didn't have to, that's mobile GPU, once again. Without 6500XT, there would be no real alternatives under $300 market, after all 6500XT is best there. And because there are sub $300 alternatives, it also means more expensive cards have better availability. It's clear that releasing 6500XT was good move. And that also proves I'm right. Simple as that, isn't it.