Apple reportedly partnered with Samsung on removing the notch from future iPhones

nanoguy

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In brief: While rumors abound about a pill-shaped notch on the upcoming iPhone 14 Pro, Apple may be working on removing the display's eyesore entirely on its Pro iPhones as soon as next year. The company is said to have partnered with Samsung, which plans to debut its second-generation under-display camera technology in the Galaxy Z Fold5.

Samsung's display division is reportedly developing a new under-panel camera technology that may bring about the death of the display notch on Apple's iPhone. Apple shamelessly introduced the signature feature with the iPhone X in 2017. While most iPhone users have learned to live with it, others have gone as far as to sue the Cupertino company for "lying" about the screen size.

The Elec reports that Samsung has a technology in development that could enable Face ID and the front camera to work from under the display. Analysts expect the Korean tech giant to use the new technology in a new foldable Galaxy phone lineup next year, and Apple could potentially apply it to iPhone 15 Pro models.

Samsung has already integrated an under-display camera into the Galaxy Z Fold3, but most reviewers found the quality disappointing even though expectations weren't that high. The pixel density over the front camera is relatively lower than the rest of the screen, thus allowing as much light as possible to reach the under-display sensor. However, this results in a low-quality capture that needs to be over-sharpened by the Samsung camera software.

Another common complaint was that the under-display camera isn't masked that well and can become a distraction when using apps with a bright background. Still, we're talking about a first-generation implementation, and Samsung has likely found a way to improve on this using more advanced materials.

Samsung Display reportedly enlisted the help of Canada-based OTI Lumionics for this next-gen project. The latter company specializes in developing transparent display technologies using an approach based on machine learning and has dedicated the past several years to researching new cathode patterning methods for IR and CMOS image sensors. In short, the company can create a fine grid of microscopic transparent windows in the cathode and pixel layers of OLED displays.

Previously, Apple was rumored to be working with LG Display to bury Face ID under the display, as the latter is also developing similar technology. According to LG plans, it wants to achieve a light transmittance of 20 percent by 2023 and 40 percent by 2024.

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QuantumPhysics

Posts: 6,308   +7,247
Honestly, these damned phones are huge, I can live with a mm thing bezel for a good functionality.

Agreed.

Sometimes I'm watching video on my iPhone and forget to expand the display as wide as possible because it just looks so good anyway.

I don't really care about the notch.

Will I take a notchless iPhone? Of course! But it isn't a huge issue.

I do appreciate phone makers who resorted to retractable camera until technology gets good enough to make in-display cameras for facetime.
 

Plutoisaplanet

Posts: 695   +1,090
Honestly, these damned phones are huge, I can live with a mm thing bezel for a good functionality.
Listen buddy I'm living with 2cm of bezel on the top and bottom of my screen on a brand new iPhone just released last week so you don't have to. So don't hold back—go ahead and treat yourself a truly bezel-less phone when you're ready. You get a truly "special edition" phone pass, from an iPhone SE owner aka "the least special phone that Apple makes" - MKBHD 2022.
 

p51d007

Posts: 3,156   +2,656
I find it hard to believe after all these years people are so concerned about that little notch ..... get a life!

It's because tech sites have been more concerned about how something LOOKS than how it works.
It has to be slim, sexy, colorful & STYLISH. LOL
 

PurpleYoda

Posts: 174   +145
Yeah, and no one even going to address the elephant in the room - that is how damn slippery iPhones are! You literally cannot use it without some sort of case otherwise before you know it it will slip out of your hand and crash on the floor!! Ridiculous but strangely absolutely no one complains about this! Why!!!?? Am I really the only one bothered by this!?
 

eforce

Posts: 957   +1,372
Rather they just ditched the selfie cam in the mean time, it's mainly used by narcissists anyways.
 

Watzupken

Posts: 603   +502
I am skeptical when Apple will make these changes. It has been like 4 generations of iPhones since the iPhone X where we lost the Touch ID, and till now, “it isn’t good enough” for Apple to introduce an under display fingerprint reader. While the latest iOS appears to include a feature for the Face ID to unlock even with the mask on, it requires a dumb Apple Watch to do so. So this sounds like Apple is trying to artificially find a reason to make people buy an Apple Watch which to me is a dumb watch where the battery can barely last a day or 2.
 

Burty117

Posts: 4,488   +2,694
How about you bring back TouchID and put it under the screen?

Androids been doing it for years now. Might as well pretend you invented it in the gen of iPhones.

On a serious note though, if they re-introduced TouchID, I'd consider buying an iPhone again.
 

MakeMSGreatAgain

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I just want an original iPhone SE sized phone with no stupid notch, touch ID, and all aluminum chassis (I don't care about wireless charging).
 

Greg Powell

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Yeah, and no one even going to address the elephant in the room - that is how damn slippery iPhones are! You literally cannot use it without some sort of case otherwise before you know it it will slip out of your hand and crash on the floor!! Ridiculous but strangely absolutely no one complains about this! Why!!!?? Am I really the only one bothered by this!?
Slippery, glass phones... @1k+
W...T..F....!!
The last good phone I had was a Moto (forget the model) yrs ish ago that I got to custum order and had a "rubbery" back side for grip, imagine that...
 

PurpleYoda

Posts: 174   +145
Slippery, glass phones... @1k+
W...T..F....!!
The last good phone I had was a Moto (forget the model) yrs ish ago that I got to custum order and had a "rubbery" back side for grip, imagine that...
My point exactly!! Thx, looks like there are two of us who are bothered with that! Good to know I am not alone! ;-)