Apple says adverse ruling in e-book trial could have "chilling effect"

Shawn Knight

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Apple lawyer Orin Snyder recently suggested that an adverse ruling in the company’s e-book pricing trial would have a chilling effect on how businesses investigate new markets. It would set a dangerous precedent moving forward as companies would be reluctant...

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MilwaukeeMike

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Snyder replied that there was no evidence to support a claim that Apple knew publishers were working together before they proposed creating an online bookstore for the iPad.

Saying there is no evidence is a far cry from saying it didn't happen.

"There is no such thing as a conspiracy by telepathy," Snyder noted.
Lawyer-speak for 'we deleted all the emails'

And why should we believe what the Apple lawyer has to say about the effect this will have on businesses entering new markets? I'll bet someone from Amazon would disagree, and a 3rd party without a vested interest may have a a different opinion altogether.
 

Skidmarksdeluxe

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I'd believe in fairies, goblins & the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow before I believed anything an Apple lawyer said.
 

umbala

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Snyder replied that there was no evidence to support a claim that Apple knew publishers were working together before they proposed creating an online bookstore for the iPad.

Saying there is no evidence is a far cry from saying it didn't happen.

"There is no such thing as a conspiracy by telepathy," Snyder noted.
Lawyer-speak for 'we deleted all the emails'

And why should we believe what the Apple lawyer has to say about the effect this will have on businesses entering new markets? I'll bet someone from Amazon would disagree, and a 3rd party without a vested interest may have a a different opinion altogether.

There probably never were any e-mails in the first place. These Apple goons are too smart to leave a trail like that behind. From what I understand, they were discussing the price fixing in person, over lunch.

Of course it's going to have a "chilling effect", on Apple's bottom line! It's funny to watch these big companies about to lose an important case and suddenly they start crying about the ruling affecting everyone. Suddenly it's about everyone, but during their backroom shenanigans it wasn't about "everyone" else, only about Apple's bottom line.

Apple is very uncomfortable in their current position. When was the last time you heard about Apple losing a big lawsuit? They're far more used to being on the attacking end of lawsuits, not on the receiving end. I bet it's leaving a bad taste in their mouth knowing they're about to lose a big case like this.
 

Wendig0

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In my opinion, an ebook should never cost more than the printed version (yet many of them do), and shouldn't be more than $3.99 tops.
 

SNGX1275

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Why is there no outrage that Amazon controlled 90% of the ebook market before Apple got involved, and that Amazon was selling them at a loss in some cases to promote their Kindle? More people/companies benefited from Apple getting into this market than were hurt. When Amazon is willing to sell books at a loss to promote their hardware, think of how many startups or whatever were prevented from entering that market.
 

captaincranky

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Why is there no outrage that Amazon controlled 90% of the ebook market before Apple got involved, and that Amazon was selling them at a loss in some cases to promote their Kindle? More people/companies benefited from Apple getting into this market than were hurt. When Amazon is willing to sell books at a loss to promote their hardware, think of how many startups or whatever were prevented from entering that market.
This has become standard practice for all the big players in this game. Probably the worst of which is Google stampeding its way into television. It doesn't generate or sponsor the creation of content, yet suddenly it announces that TV can't live without it.

As far as Apple goes, this is still a colostomy bag of a company, which is all pissed off because it doesn't have a share of the market it deems itself entitled to.

What happened, did Apple suddenly get bored with biting that hand that feeds it by suing Samsung?
 

St1ckM4n

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Can we also sue Apple for making the average cost of mobile handsets rise? For making notebook costs rise?

Also, wasn't there an email posted on TS showing the convo between Jobs and some publisher about fixing the prices?
 

captaincranky

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Can we also sue Apple for making the average cost of mobile handsets rise? For making notebook costs rise?

Also, wasn't there an email posted on TS showing the convo between Jobs and some publisher about fixing the prices?
You can't sue anybody for anything. Now shut up and break out your credit card.:D

I'd believe in fairies, goblins & the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow before I believed anything an Apple lawyer said.
So you've met my therapist then....?:confused: