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Apple to hold media event on September 7?

By Shawn Knight · 16 replies
Aug 12, 2011
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  1. Rumors of the next iPhone have been swirling ever since the device was a no-show at WWDC earlier this year, but now we have the first rumored date of Apple’s…

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  2. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,041   +793

    FFS! Get it out already!
  3. freedomthinker

    freedomthinker TS Enthusiast Posts: 140

    I can't stand this kind of stuff really . Creating suspense for nothing , im pretty sure they're gonna release the same hunk of crap like every other year . And like every other year , loads of (mostly) stupid people will pile up to get the same thing they bought the previous year but with 1 or 2 new functions . But hey , capitalism works , don't it ? Pure consumption and not a single thought for anything else ! Scarcity is amazing .
  4. matrix86

    matrix86 TS Guru Posts: 828   +32

    Really? What ***** came up with that idea? If that were the case, Apple would have just come out and said "Hey guys! Sorry for the delay, but we're waiting for 4G LTE so we can deliver a superior phone to you." Or something like that. As for the other part of the rumor, wouldn't it make more sense to get your phone out first, instead of releasing it beside the competitor?
  5. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,041   +793

    Why does everyone think the iPhone is a piece of crap? I'll admit the iPhone 4 wasn't anything special and has had alot of issues, thats why I didn't get it, but the 3GS and before were completely revolutionary in the Smartphone arena? Or at least were fairly good phones.

    I've got a 3GS, had it since launch, it is getting knackered now and needs to retire its service and I think the next one will be a stunner! of course if its not then bye bye apple you ain't gettin ma money!

    then again, if they've only made one crap model so far, I somewho don't think they are going to bring something rubbish to the table.
  6. Greg S

    Greg S TechSpot Staff Posts: 833   +411

    "Still others believe that the next iPhone will feature a radical new design with a contured rear panel."

    This statement is contradictory in itself. Having a contoured rear panel is what the first three iphones have had, and what all four touches have had. There is nothing new about the design.
  7. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,010   +18

    I agree with that statement. At worst an iPhone is a very good phone.

    I think calling it a piece of crap is just backlash against it being called the Alpha and Omega of personal electronics by some of it's supporters, and how the media shoves it down our throat as such.
  8. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,270   +91

    Burty, I believe you are in the wrong thread...?

    Nobody said the iPhone is a piece of crap. Most people just realized that Apple charges full price every year for a phone that is essentially the same as its predecessor, with just minor improvements that don't even justify the price. The most maddening thing is seeing the almost robot-like way in which people pile up (or camp) in an Apple store to get such devices. So instead of calling these people stupid (because, after all, it's their money and they do what they want with it), people redirect their "hate" towards the mastermind: Apple.

    If you have an open mind, and look close, most so called "Apple-haters" don't hate Apple products, but Apple itself. Just pointing that out there...
  9. lawfer,

    But how is Apple any different from any other Smartphone manufacturer?

    I have the Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S1) and while the new S2 has dual-core CPUs, far superior graphics card, larger screen, it's still essentially the same phone as my S1. I am not suddenly going to get some magical functionality out of the S2 as I would out of my S1. It's not going to make me 5 years younger, pump the tire pressure in my car, allow me to increase my IQ by 10%, etc.

    At the end of the day, a smartphone is a luxury item. In other words, one can argue that anyone who NEEDS a smartphone to be happy is just as much of a sheep as someone who buys Version 1-2-3-4 of Galaxy S OR iphone OR Droid OR Nokia, etc. etc.

    Most people have lost touch with reality and life. Who reads classical or modern classic books? Plays sports? 68% of Americans are either obese or overweight.

    It's interesting how people hate Apple for releasing "useful/barely better" products while the products they themselves are using are NO better than their previous versions for basic tasks (texting, phone calls, browsing the interent). That's the reality, period.

    So by this logic, the millions of people who are upgrading to the latest Android phone are just as "stupid".
  10. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,270   +91

    You can't compare Apple to manufacturers. Apple is a software and hardware designer; they don't manufacture the iPhone, other OEMs do.

    But in the "sense," in which you are speaking, Apple advertises the IPhone, while OEMs hardly advertise their devices. In the US particularly, carriers do. The very reason as to why Android is so big today, is because of Verizon's DROID brand.

    This is fallacy at its best. You say the phone has dual-core CPU, superior graphics, larger screen, but its essentially the same phone? That makes no sense. In comparison with the Galaxy S, the Galaxy SII has a superior 8 megapixel camera, with 1080p video recording, don't forget the front-facing 2 megapixel camera, a larger screen, along with the new Super AMOLED Plus display technology WITH an anti-fingerprint technology, a dual-core Nvidia Tegra 2 SoC, 1 GB of RAM, NFC Support, first phone with MHL technology, Android 2.3.4, with Samsung's TouchWiz 4.0, and all of this while being thinner and lighter than the iPhone 4. Yeah, I can totally see the how it's "essentially" the same as the Galaxy S.

    How is the iPhone 4 essentially the same, you ask? If you consider having a better display and a better camera and a better processor, an upgrade worth $700, then I am sorry for you. Or how about the iPhone 3GS? The iPhone 3G and the iPhone 3GS are the same, the 3GS just has a better processor. Still the same high price tag. The word "essentially" here is explicitly used to highlight how insignificant the changes are, and how hardly they justify the price; it's not used literally (that should have been perceived through context).

    There's a big difference between getting a phone because is better or slightly better, than getting a phone just because its new. iPhone owners fall into the latter category, and that's exactly what makes them a bigger type of sheep. More on that next.

    You seem to not grasp the very reason why people are bothered with how the iPhone sales itself. The iPhone 4 introduced the Retina Display, a faster processor, and a better camera (and front-facing one). That hardly justifies the $600-$700 price-tag, but that's not important though. You see, those who pile up (or camp) on Apple stores don't exactly do it for the improvements, they do it because its the new iPhone. To see somebody so oblivious of the actual benefit of their purchase, baffles a lot of people, because it just makes you realize they do not care for the phone, the care for the brand.

    People do not camp from the day before on a Verizon store to get the, say, HTC Thunderbolt, do they? The inherent discussion here is, the advertising, and the propaganda around the Apple products, the sense of immediate social superiority if such products are obtained; the ludicrous prices simply based on image and exclusivity; all of this together is all a way of saying: get the iPhone 5, because its the iPhone 5, not because its a superior phone (compared to the competition).

    Alternatively, like I said, people don't hate the products, the iPhone was revolutionary. But there have been phones and operating systems that have done what the iPhone 5 does, better and cheaper. Android is like Windows because it keeps the functionality/price ratio higher than the iPhone or Mac. People don't see the iPhone as a smartphone, those very people who wait hours in line, wait for an icon; they wait for a title that portrays elitism and social superiority over others. It's not because is a better phone, its just because its a new iPhone.

    And that is a big difference when you compare it to somebody who gets an Android. Most people get an Android phone, because they usually do things the last didn't. Even by disregarding the hardware, do you think TouchWiz 4.0 doesn't offer superior functionality over TouchWiz 3.0 on the Galaxy S phones? Android's open source nature allows OEMs to improve their devices without being too overly incremental. That subsequently allows people who get Android, know exactly what they are getting with X new phone release. They know the facts, they know the capabilities, and they know how much compared to an iPhone the will be able to do and pay. That's exactly why there aren't hundreds of people waiting in lines for Android, because Android purchases are usually very well-informed decisions. And that intrinsic difference, is what makes <I>the</I> difference.
  11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEtPQDQNcI

    Apple copied "the Tablet" from 1994.
  12. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,514   +2,308

    Despite any hoopla from Cupertino, I think Sept 7, 2011 will be just another. On that day, I would still opt for downloading porn, in lieu of listening to another blast of crap from Apple.

    While that may sound slightly degenerate, keep in mind I don't get the same sexual satisfaction of of buying what Steve Jobs tells me to, as do many others. You know who you are....:suspiciou
  13. Saying the iPhone is $600-700 is wrong, unless you buy it outright. If you get your first iPhone, it will be subsidized by the carrier (AT&T and Verizon), making the phone $200-$300, depending on the model (16GB or 32GB). If you choose to upgrade early, because you are already an iPhone owner, you get a $200 discount for the next one. This makes them $400-500, respectively. I don't mind paying that, because I can always sell my currect iPhone for more than I paid for it on eBay. I bought the iPhone 4, for $424 with tax and sold my 3GS on ebay for $427. I will do the same thing, when the new one comes out. Any Android flagship phone will be just as expensive if you buy it outright...period. You argument is a moot point.
  14. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,041   +793

    Well thats not true now is it?

    See! someone did say it was crap? I'm glad I wasn't going mental.

    So just like all other company's? ya know, Samsung with the Galaxy Series, Motorola with the Droid Series, Nokia with the N Series, RIM Blackberry with its, Well Bold, Curve and Storm Series & lets not forget Sony Ericsson With all there different Series that get either an extra "i" on the end of its name or a number between 10-50 added and therefore its an "upgrade" worth its money.

    Well this is true, it is maddening i'll agree, I honestly cannot see why people do it to be honest, usually the first ones have all sorts of problems, either overheating, software bugs or broken screens etc... I don't understand why people can't wait 3 months for all the hype to die down a bit? But then, same can be said for Microsoft and people piling up for the xbox or sony for the playstation or for the wee.
    I guess if someone really does like a particular product line they will go to great lengths to get their hands on it first.


    Thats true I guess but again freedomthinker did actually say "iPhone" not "Apple"...
  15. I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I'm no Apple fanboy by any means. In fact, I have never purchased an Apple product, except for an iPod or two that I bought used. I've played around with iPhones from friends and read all the reviews, watched the keynotes and they aren't a "hunk of crap". Sure, they might not be the best phones, but in reality, there is no best phone. Just different strokes for different folks.

    An iPhone is great for a lot of people. I can tell you my 22-year old sister doesn't give a damn about custom boot ROMs. She just wants something that is simple and does what she needs it to and her 3GS fulfills her needs just fine.

    People generally hate competing products as a way to justify their purchase.

    Fanboy X disses Xbox because he bought a PS3.
    Fanboy Y disses Chevy because he bought a Ford.
    Fanboy Z disses Andriod because he bought a iOS device.
  16. "Apple charges full price every year for a phone that is essentially the same as its predecessor, with just minor improvements that don't even justify the price."

    Minor improvements!? Every generation of the phone has been a major improvement over the previous one. What exactly are you looking for!? What were the groundbreaking improvements that Motorola, HTC, or Samsung put in this year's phone over their previous generation?

    You have no clue what you're talking about because you don't own one. So don't bother chiming in with this crap.
  17. the sgs2 actually has samsungs own processor called Exynos

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