Bring back xp

ZedRM

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no it does not have a repair install where it re-installs os fies like xp did.
Yes, it does. From Vista on up, the methods used to repair an installation are different, but the effect is the same as long as you understand how to do it. You seem like you need to get up to speed on that aspect of functionality.
News flash, XP won't let you use the DVD repair function, if the edition of Windows installed is on a different service pack number from the disc..

In other words, XP SP-3 can'r be repaired from an SP-1 or 2 disc.
This is true.
 

captaincranky

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" P3 and P4 was before dual core production" is true. My P4 3.4Ghz Medion was single core but can also function as a fan heater in case our gas boiler stops working. It was billed as having hyper threading technology.
The latest runs of P-4 and comparable Celerons weren't Prescott cores.! They were Cedar Mill, and not quite as hot as the Prescotts.

I get the biggest charge out of all the whimpering going on nowadays about CPU prices. The top end P-4 (I think that's the one you're talking about with "hyper threading"), listed for $999.00 US..! Even today's $80.00 Celerons would chew it to shreds.
Opera is always complaining about certification expired, but Mozilla Fire Fox, version 4.42.00 supplied to me by the seller works ok.
I actually have an XP SP-3 32 bit system up and running. Firefox is listed as, "ESR 59.2.0". (It's still a single process variant). The biggest security issue with XP, was any of the Internet Explorer versions available to install for it. As soon as you installed a decent A/V and Firefox, most of the issues went away. Trust me, I go where angels fear to tread with this machine, without any problems.
 
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bazz2004

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Agree with that. My Medion 8383 P4 3.4 is still in use unlike the core 2 duo machine that had been running W10 32 bit and was bought to replace it. I did have to remove hardware from the Medion and make some modifications to reduce noise and heat but it's very handy to have it available for programs no longer supported by later versions of Windows. Compatibility mode has proved pretty restricted in its success. I may even treat it to an SSD upgrade at some point. It was one of the first to offer SATA connections for the hard drive
 

captaincranky

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@bazz2004 Here's the Intel Ark page on that "Pentium 4 Extreme".
Highlights 64 bit ! Hyper threading, and of all things a Prescott. (They neglect to mention the price)


Is that the version you have?

I had an oddball eMachines w/ a P-4 (3.06 Ghz) I think the board was actually an Intel issue (Foxconn) 915 GAG Matx.it had SATA ports. Gateway had so much trouble with their PSUs taking out boards in their Celeron machines, that they left the PCI-E x 16 socket out completely, so you couldn't install a video card. It was still running when I got tired of it's lethargy, and junked it. (13 years old). The OEM WD Blue 160 GB was still running.

The PSU was 300 watts instead of the notorious exploding 250s. It did fail fairly quickly, but left the mobo intact.

Have you been into that BIOS? Are the drives actually running as SATA? Standard practice was to run them as IDE, in spite of the SATA ports. AFAIK, those old boards were SATA 1 (150 MBs).

The old junk I've been screwing with (G-31, P-45, & G-41) have SATA 2, and an SSD does make them pretty snappy.
 
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wiyosaya

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The biggest problem with XP,, (although granted not a severe issue), is the error it blows up that, "another program is using this file so it cannot be moved". Which leaves you with the files moved, and an empty folder that can't be moved until you reboot. God forbid you forget about it, and try to move the file later, since it will delete the files in the destination folder.
To be fair, that is a programmer's issue. Many programs used to open files with a flag that forbid another program opening the same file at the same time - exclusive access. If the programmer changed that flag to the equivalent of "open non-exclusively", that error would not occur.
Other than that, IMO Vista got a bad rap, due to the fact the aftermarket suppliers didn't catch up with drivers for it soon enough. It's big breakthrough was native AHCI drivers, which completely eliminated the floppy disc bullsh!t with XP.

With all that said, Windows 7 is a much more pleasant experience than XP or Vista, especially for HTPC use. With WMC, you just slap in a $50.00 tuner, and you've got yourself a spare TV.. In fact, Hauppage offers a special dedicated driver for WMC.
Can't say I am experienced with your configuration, but Windohs 10 with MediaPortal and HD HomeRun tuners - which are IP based, works great for a HTPC. I've got two, dual HD HomeRun tuners on my network, and my HTPC setup can record from as many as 4 different RF channels at a time. If each of those has 4 subchannels, it could simultaneously record those 16 channels.

I also have an old Samsung Blu-ray player that sees those HD HomeRun tuners and, thus, I can watch OTA TV Channels on my Blu-ray player.

HD Home Run even now has ATSC 3.0 tuners - which is an upcoming 4K and beyond (picture Buzz Lightyear saying that 🤣 ) OTA TV Standard. Philly might have one or two ATSC 3.0 stations on the air already.
Then there's the Aero slide show experience, sublime.

In M$' desperation to get rid of we stubborn Win 7 holdouts, they've stopped offering the XP emulator, and even the Vudu app for Windows is only available for Win 10.

I really wish the fed would revoke this a**hole Nadella's H1-B Visa, and bring Bill Gates back.
You want Gates back? :facepalm: Sorry, Captain, I think Bill is an over-rated Jack a$$ from whom Elon Musk was cloned. 🤣

I will say one thing about XP. I have XP-64 installed on a dual-core Opteron 1220 and it boots faster than any of the modern Windohs PCs that I have - which include a 6-core 12 thread Ivy Bridge-X Zeon system. The XP system is currently gathering dust as I have not turned it on in at least a year now.

After Windows 7, IMO, M$ specialized in Bloatware masquerading as an OS. 🤷‍♂️
 

captaincranky

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You want Gates back? :facepalm: Sorry, Captain, I think Bill is an over-rated Jack a$$ from whom Elon Musk was cloned. 🤣
Be that as it may, he'll still never be anywhere as pushy and obnoxious as Nadella. Who, IMO, is the king of a**holes, may they revoke his visa to reign in Redmond.
I will say one thing about XP. I have XP-64 installed on a dual-core Opteron 1220 and it boots faster than any of the modern Windohs PCs that I have - which include a 6-core 12 thread Ivy Bridge-X Zeon system. The XP system is currently gathering dust as I have not turned it on in at least a year now.
I can't speak to this, as my XP box is 32 bit. Plus, the OS is on a $29.95 Toshiba, (I think) 1 TB partitioned HDD (250/750), that XP never fails to want to run "chkdisc" every time I hit the power button. I just click it away, and go pour myself a cup of coffee, while the turd finishes booting.

There's an old joke that goes something like, "I'll get into pornography when I get a pornograph to play it on".

Oh dear, I've said too much. :rolleyes:

I will say that my "antique" G-31 Pent E6300, DDR-2 800 mhz, after installing a $25.00 PNY SSD, gives me a clear desktop in under 30 seconds on Win 7 32 bit. I'll tell you how old it is, the board will only handle up to a whopping 4 GB of RAM. Hence, no need or use for a 64 bit OS
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