This year has been depressing and it show what companies will do when they have basically cornered the market. AMD following suit with their ridiculous prices will not go away and one reason is people are still buying. These companies could care less about the consumer really never did, its just numbers, their bottom line.
Desktop graphics card sales reach lowest point since 2005
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Beerfloat
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What's the difference?
Obscene greed always catches up to you in the end. Karma really is a *****, and Nvidia especially has a boatload of it coming. I hope people will hold off until prices come down to the point that $300 will again buy a decent GPU. Until then, I'll stick with my RX6600-XT. Shame on all of you who continue to buy Nvidia.
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Market share is units sold. Not shipped.
It is understandable. After the crypto crash, the numbers had to do this.
It is possible that without mining fever the numbers would look very steady. But since GPU makers had crazy profits in the last 2 years, well that story is ending.
And regarding prices. Maybe it would be better if gpu makers had 2 lines of product: premium and mid range. Set affordable prices for cards that non the less can run most games and would satisfy all people who think 900 for gpu is crazy.
Instead, the just jacked the price of something people always counted on as affordable + inflation.
It is possible that without mining fever the numbers would look very steady. But since GPU makers had crazy profits in the last 2 years, well that story is ending.
And regarding prices. Maybe it would be better if gpu makers had 2 lines of product: premium and mid range. Set affordable prices for cards that non the less can run most games and would satisfy all people who think 900 for gpu is crazy.
Instead, the just jacked the price of something people always counted on as affordable + inflation.
For you.
a 1060 would not give me playable fps in many of the games I play at 3440x1440 @ 144hz.
envirovore
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I concur. After seeing it in action while playing (as screenshots don't do justice), light acting like your brain expects it to does far more for immersion than texture fidelity.
Haters gonna hate though.
envirovore
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I am hopelessly addicted to Wreckfest multiplayer, best online survival horror game ever.
What platform do you play on (steam, epic, origin?) as while they recently updated the back end to get all pc platforms cross-play ability, it's not yet implemented. If you're on Steam, stop in Poop Sock's some night...I tend to be in there nearly daily, same user name.
Also, if you're on Steam check the workshop for the NINJA bike mod. It's a blast. Noodle put some good work into it.
Edit: I should also hope a 1060 plays a game from 2014 just fine. Now give CP2077 or something newer a try at high settings and same resolution and report back.
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Beerfloat
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I was asking waclark, though. Your unique takes on anything related to video cards, and uhm.. words, and language, and how they interact with reality, are.. well.. eh.
wiyosaya
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The GPU makers brought this Karma on themselves. They have nothing and no one else to blame.
Growing market share means you're increasing your sales and taking market share away from your competitors. In this case, I believe that Nvidia's sales are actually decreasing but because they have the dominate market share they can hold onto their number 1 position. AMD's sales are also retreating and a dip in their sales numbers have a larger impact on their market position. In other words Nvidia's sales are decelerating, the question is whether AMD can take advantage of that in 2023.
I pity anyone who got the 4090 for gaming. My 2070 can still play AAA games at Ultra for £240 back in 2018 and I get the same gaming satisfaction but with a nice big smile.
I wonder what year we will see the 4090 struggle with games 2035? But I'm sure there will be DirectX18 way before then so need that upgrade.
I wonder what year we will see the 4090 struggle with games 2035? But I'm sure there will be DirectX18 way before then so need that upgrade.
Most people that got a 4090 are doing so because they are pushing 4k. I don't think they need or care about your pity lol.
MasterMace
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Prices on the top 2 cards from green are $1600 / $1200, and from red are $1000 / $900. Now you tell me sales are super low?
That's crazy....
That's crazy....
envirovore
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Good for you that your 2070 still does fine at low resolutions, not everyone is you though.
Some of us prefer high resolution and high refresh rates.
Plan for next year is to buy one for that purpose since I've already got the monitor for it, and the 3080 will go into the spare rig I have sitting around.
I'm still using a GTX 1060. It feels less like a holding pattern and more like a low Earth orbit where I'm just staring down at these prices and thinking WTF?
Beerfloat
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Ah. Well, I reckon it means getting a bigger slice of the discrete GPU market, such as it is. Total volume of the market doesn't factor into it.
I have started with the single player on Steam but I will play online for sure.
GeforcerFX
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I will just keep rocking my APUs been using them since 2014 during the first miner run on gpus and they have been kicking butt since then. The 5600g at only $130 is such a good deal. Give it 16gbs of ddr4 3600 or 3800 and your set for most games just fine. Looking forward to some RDNA desktop APUs at some point.
envirovore
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You should, it's a pretty small but rather close knit community...with the occasional typical online bro being dumb in chat at times.
If you don't feel like grinding out single player mode to unlock all the vehicles there is a mod on the workshop that will unlock all but the DLC and Tournament store cars available called I Want It All. I found career mode to be okay though.
Few pointers if you like, obviously play as you prefer but these may help a little as some of the mechanics in game aren't well defined or explained.
Turn traction control off in the difficulty setting if you want to be able to drift through a corner without the car suddenly biting and going nose first into the inside wall. With rear wheel drive cars (which are most) setting tuning to Locked Diff and Full Rear Brake Bias tends to be the meta for most the better players and will help with said drifting through corners.
Manual + Clutch is absurdly broken if you use a controller and configure it on the right hand stick as well, and allows to be faster and more control over Auto or just straight manual. Bind shift up to right stick up, shift down to right stick down, clutch to left on right stick. Set clutch saturation to 5-10% in advanced controller options, then just hit right stick diagonally up left/diagonally down left to clutch and shift at once together.
Also if using controller set throttle saturation to 100% if you're using a trigger for it, by default it's set to 60, bumping it up to proper 100 will allow for finer throttle control.
Don't trust the armor stat either, that's not how strong you are against being hit (it does make a small difference, buit not as much as the stat would have you believe. each car has their own hit points set...some squishier than others. Some are solid front and back and squishy sides - a fully armored Roadcutter will only take 5 damage full speed head on into anything, but will crumple with a side hit even full armor for instance) but rather how strong you are in hitting other vehicles as it re-enforces the deformation sphere model of the vehicle against player initiated impacts.
More weight = heavier hit, weight is not distributed as you'd think either. Adding a heavy bumper to front of car doesn't weigh the front down when in the air for example, it's all just center of mass addition.
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