Elon Musk predicts a neocloud bloodbath as SpaceX seeks $40 billion to buy more GPUs

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Winners & losers: Is the AI industry bubble closer than ever to bursting? Elon Musk has just predicted that more than 200 neocloud companies, which rent compute power to firms for AI training and inference, will experience "guppy-level death and consolidation." In the same post, the CEO announced that SpaceX has secured $40 billion in debt to fund more GPU purchases, though one report claims the deal hasn't closed.

Writing in an X post yesterday, Musk said lenders had largely stopped providing money to those companies without substantial income outside AI data centers.

He claimed SpaceX could still borrow thanks to its investment-grade status and revenue from Starlink and rocket launches. But for the smaller players depending on the AI boom, his outlook was a lot less optimistic, warning that they face shutdowns and acquisitions.

"Some will make it through, but not many," Musk wrote.

Musk was replying to investor Chamath Palihapitiya, who argued that neocloud operators were poorly funded and organized.

Palihapitiya expects unused computing capacity to become a problem in 2027. These companies, which include CoreWeave and Lambda, often borrow heavily to buy the GPUs they rent to customers. Keeping that model going becomes much harder when lenders lose their enthusiasm.

However, Musk could have revealed SpaceX's deal prematurely. Bloomberg reported that the debt package had yet to be finalized, with pricing discussions continuing.

The GPUs are expected to arrive in the first half of 2027, Fox Business reports, so the purchases would have little impact this quarter.

Anyone expecting Musk to snap up struggling rivals might be disappointed. He dismissed that suggestion, saying SpaceX had no intention of buying neoclouds.

Musk isn't exactly renowned for making predictions that turn out to be accurate, but plenty of others share this belief. Gartner expects more than 80% of neocloud providers could stop operating independently by 2030.

The warning comes days after Citadel founder Ken Griffin said investors were "almost certainly" in an AI bubble. Griffin questioned how consistently businesses were getting value from AI, even as infrastructure spending continued. He also argued that a bubble and a lasting technological transformation could happen together, pointing to the survivors of the dot-com crash.

Money isn't the only problem. It was reported in April that between 30% and 50% of US AI data centers planned for 2026 could be delayed or canceled because of power and electrical equipment shortages. With tighter lending posing another obstacle, having customers eager for more compute may not be enough to get a project finished.

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Starlink is not for military use. But sure, embrace the MDS, demand political pursecutions, SURELY this could never backfire on you.

Go touch grass.
It's funny because starlink and starshield use the same satellites and Ukraine has access to both. It's like saying my unlocked T-Mobile phone can't use ATT even though they're using the same antenna and network infustructure. Also, Musk is offering both services to Ukraine for free.

So that line they wrote in the EULA to defend this is pretty dumb when you look at it like that. Also,.EULAs don't do anything for anyone aside from attempting to cover a company's legal liability while also limiting the rights of the user. Musk's EULA is not internationally enforceable. EULAs are only enforceable in countries that agree to them, they aren't some law of the universe.

He's also been fine with this use(and known about it) for 4 years now so he can't claim ignorance and hide behind the EULA
 
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Starlink is not for military use. But sure, embrace the MDS, demand political pursecutions, SURELY this could never backfire on you.

Go touch grass.
StarShield is though, and Ukraine is paying for it (with money from Europe - mainly Germany).
So the US suddenly imposing limits (unannounced) costing Ukrainian lives as interceptor drones are affected... is to put it very lightly, a **** move.
 
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These small AI companies bought hardware then make money renting it out.

In the next few years they sell off the hardware or get purchased by big AI.

That’s not a failure, that’s a viable business than ran for 5 years paying everyone involved. The hype fueled big boys have lost sight of how regular businesses actually operate.
 
These small AI companies bought hardware then make money renting it out.

In the next few years they sell off the hardware or get purchased by big AI.

That’s not a failure, that’s a viable business than ran for 5 years paying everyone involved. The hype fueled big boys have lost sight of how regular businesses actually operate.
I don't think Oracle or Coreweave are small companies. They're currently just debt vehicles for hardware manufacturers. In order for all this stuff to be bought up during a bankruptcy there 2 things have to be true.

1) It has to make business sense to buy up the old hardware(the companies would not be going bankrupt if it was profitable)
2)There has to to be money avaliable to buy them with. Everyone aside from Apple are cashflow negative right now, so they will need to finance this with debt. If all the neo clouds and AI companies go bankrupt that will remove trillions from the economy. The banks aren't going to want to loan anyone any money for AI if AI just crashed the economy
 
I trust Elon Musk far more than I trust Gartner.

Musk is an engineer who predicts the future by creating it.

Gartner writes reports that say "current trends will continue" and then sells it to corporate PHB's who need to cover their a**es. Decision laundering tools.
 
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