Elon Musk set to lay off half of all Twitter employees, end work-anywhere policy

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Hexic

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Remote workers are going to figure out real quick, if they want to stay remote, they are going to be in a very big pool of employees that work for very little. And I just want to say I CALLED IT, remote work was not permanent and never will be.

If you're talking about specifically remote Twitter employees never working out, ehh.. that's up for alot of debate.

If you are generalizing about all remote work not eventually working out - my firm (one of the largest in the world) who hires tens of thousands of remote employees a year, and has been for the last decade - would disagree with that statement in reality.
 

zulu53

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Elon is an entrepreneur that I am happy to invest with but wouldn't want to work for.

I only work that hard for my own startups.
You are correct - its all about work ethics; in both the work output for pay as well as the desire to do good. The work ethics of Twitter were always questionable; hence the cleaning of the stables approach adopted by Musk. Yes, if you think that you should work for a company whose work ethics do not match your work ethics - don't; since you will be found out an fired and it will bad on your resume- all that hiring and firing. My opinion as a person who has had to hire and fire many technical people: don't hire anyone that has been fired by Musk; you will have an 80% chance of having to fire them when your expectation of work performance from them are not met. Of course I only worked for high performance ethical companies; so you would need to go elsewhere for the opinion of low performance companies.
 

zulu53

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In truth, people that think success, hard work and dedication is for pricks, are the real life pricks.
Undoubtedly very lazy too.

Yes, Musk is a*****e, but it has nothing to do with his bank account.
Agree. Its what I used to call the "hard truth" about individual survival in Western Society - if you want to assure yourself of the benefits you must put in the effort. Unfortunately is follows the 80/20 rule. There are 20% of people that survive without putting in the effort. It is disappointing in the 21st century that 50% of new adults seem intent on being part of the 20% - talk about a lack of STEM education - 50 into 20 does not fit.
 

zulu53

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Dude...if you're earning your money, you're doing it all wrong!!
You need to live off the government and your parents savings and fight against all this hard work, success and dedication BS going on. Fight the power, be a loser!!
That boat sailed a while ago; and 50% of new adults jumped on board. The race is now to the BIGGEST LOSER not merely a LOSER.
 

Slappy McPhee

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They're a private company sweaty, they can do what they want. If you dont like it go make your own twitter!
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Remote workers are going to figure out real quick, if they want to stay remote, they are going to be in a very big pool of employees that work for very little. And I just want to say I CALLED IT, remote work was not permanent and never will be.

Your perspective is intriguing. I suppose from a high level you MIGHT be correct, but I for one can tell you that I have been working remote since 2010 and have had a six figure salary the entire time. It is like anything else with employment; know your value and actually be VALUABLE rather than just taking up an employee ID.
 

p51d007

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I really don't know why people think he's a hero.
He's just living his best capitalist life.
Like the rest of the rich pricks.

Oh, like 90% of federal politicians, who, live in the DC area, one of the more EXPENSIVE real estate markets, on a $200,000 dollar a year salary while maintaining a residence back home, and become MILLIONAIRES in a few short years?
 

zulu53

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I really don't know why people think he's a hero.
He's just living his best capitalist life.
Like the rest of the rich pricks.
You need to define who these "people" are that you are talking about; for this comment to make any sense. Most of the people in the world have never heard of Musk (even in his birth country). I think of him as a "hero" if you will; but I do it from a businessman's perspective (that part of me that understands successful business in our world. So are you talking about "people" being those educated and experienced in successful business?
 

zulu53

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If these reported (including Bloomberg) actually read Musk posts they could see (and report it appropriately). "Cost cutting lay-offs" is a euphemism for "getting rid of the rot of lazy unethical employees". He was just being dramatic when he said this was 75% (in the sense of "I will knock them over the head with a 2x4 to get their, Twitter employees" attention); while knowing that the reality would be more like 50% (following the old rule that there are 50% stupid people in the world and if any company doesn't pay attention to their hiring and firing practices they will tend towards this number within their employees. Just rough rules anyway - what he is really doing is cutting out the bad employees while trying to preserve the good. Twitter was, at one time, a company with high percentage of good employees and actually served a valuable purpose for society. Musk wants to take it back to those roots. Just like NFL teams: you have to get back to the basics, lay off the bad and hire the good around a core of good. Successful business 101.
Yes Techspot (Rob or whoever else allowed the use the emotive gladiator graphic) - wake up and smell the coffee; join the world why don't you.
 

Rq3EWAq

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I mean, He's just spent $40Bn+ he doesn't have, and to service that debt, the little people once again have to pay the price whilst the suits and parasite corporate lawyers bleed it and them, dry.

No one is forcing people to use twitter. I don't have an account there, deleted it a few years ago.
Now I use free nitter instance to read and browse all posts without any adverts, tracking, cookies, anything. Twitter.com domain is entirely blocked at DNS level, redirection is placed in Firefox, everything is smooth, I still have free access. :)
If Twitter force me to open an account to read, I would just stop using it.
 

Rq3EWAq

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MyIOnU

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Remote working is pretty bad, especially if you live in the high pay rate areas. Now the employers have the choice to hire someone else in other places that they can pay less.
 

Scott Barnes

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There are still plenty of positions out there dangling the carrot of remote work in front of potential employees. Besides, it fits the capitalistic model in that companies no longer have the expense of maintaining a business location which increases the holy grail of capitalism - the bottom line.

He did not invent them. He did not invent the vehicles that Tesla sells. His deal with Tesla was that part of his buyout of them included stipulation that he go on record as the Inventor of the vehicle even though he is not. He's nothing more than a fraud, and never will be anything more than a fraud.
Review a few of those videos if you really want to know what Elon Musk is all about.

No he's not. It was NASA inviting in private enterprise for tasks deemed too menial for NASA leaving NASA to tackle the much harder tasks like JWST, and missions to the outer planets. And in case you have not heard, Space X is not the only player NASA has invited into the game. Besides that, all the companies that NASA invited in have royalty-free access to all NASA patents.

I'm not going to address any more of your post since it is full of praise for the emperor with no clothes.
Might I point out that you keep using the same link to a collection of monetized youtube videos that are all from the same period roughly a year ago that are all critical of Musk. Critique is the cornerstone of a functional debate as well as the basis of the scientific method, though that critique begins to wither in potency when it can easily be shown to be a mechanism of profit. One of the channels in the short list you linked seems to have come into existence entirely to base a business model on rage bait regarding Musk as evidenced by its content, time of creation and transparent monetization.

I would suggest looking into the arguments for Musk regarding the same businesses and corporate decisions so as to reduce the affect of personal bias on your commentary. Journalistic standard has traditionally been 3 verifiable sources without a conflict of interest. I would posit the youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/ColdFusion/featured which is run by internationally award winning documentarian Dagogo Altraide who has a 14 year history of balanced deep dives into business, technology and history.

Regarding Matt Farah specifically I would note that he became increasingly aggressive in his statements regarding Musk and Tesla up until an episode of his podcast "The smoking tire podcast" where he interviewed his father Roger Farah. His father is a very well reputed professional CEO with a long history of going into companies and sorting out the finances to bring them back from bankruptcy. It seemed very much like Matts tone regarding some of his political statements mellowed quite a bit after interviewing his father. Might be nothing but after following Farah for over a decade it seemed very much like his father had sat him down to explain to him how business actually gets done.
 

Nintenboy01

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I see the Musk is "the devil brigade" has already infested this thread. Capitalism is bad and socialism is good, blah, blah, blah. Don't forget to wear your worthless mask if you go outside while collecting those free .gov checks...

Hard to blame Musk considering the current failed administration trying to uncluster what the old leadership did at twitter.

Consider the following link of general .gov screw ups so far as to why he needs to do what he is doing. The only thing I would disagree with him is to ease up on remote working. A hybrid solution would be best.

Biden's. failure, weakness and chaos
Oh no, not a hard working and successful capitalist!!!!
Seriously blows my mind how people love to demonize others that earn their success.
I don't know Musk and don't care to but holy crap the ridiculous hate for capitalism and people with money is insane. Here's an idea....work hard and earn your own and stop judging everyone who has done well.
A lot of these rich people were born with all the advantages of the world at their disposal, or inherited wealth from their parents. Only a small number rose from humble beginnings.
Surely you've heard the emerald mine story?
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-th...ot-their-wealth-from-apartheid-emerald-mining
 

Scott Barnes

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A lot of these rich people were born with all the advantages of the world at their disposal, or inherited wealth from their parents. Only a small number rose from humble beginnings.
Surely you've heard the emerald mine story?
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-th...ot-their-wealth-from-apartheid-emerald-mining
The third reply down on Quora by Jeremy Arnold was the generally accepted rights of this until it became fashionable to propagate the myth surrounding the childhood of Tesla's leader. Other Journalists have dug into the past of Errol Musk and have come away with the same publicly available records of his time in council and his affiliations at the time. Government records are generally a great source for determining the rights of things down the road as very few people are interested in digging through municipal or regional government meeting minutes to misrepresent their contents as such their content tends to be un molested.

 

BogdanR

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Musk is an attention grabbing idi0t who’s done a lot of damage to the image of the otherwise successful companies he’s associated with. There’s a fine line between genius and lunacy but Musk has crossed that so many times it’s impossible to tell what’s left of him.
 
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