Elon Musk to demonstrate a working Neuralink device during live webcast

Lionvibez

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Bullcrap https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-selects-blue-origin-dynetics-spacex-for-artemis-human-landers Unless NASA's endorsement means nothing for these other companies, and then it must mean nothing for SpaceX, either.

And how do you think that Lander is getting to space?

From your link

The awardees for NASA’s Human Landing System contracts are Blue Origin of Kent, Washington, Dynetics (a Leidos company) of Huntsville, Alabama, and SpaceX of Hawthorne, California.

You tackled the endorsement part of my previous statement but didn't touch on the performance part. Which is where Space X is leading currently.

None of the others have working reusable rockets and they are not gonna strap the lander to an Atlast V rocket.
 

Goat11

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Elon has four patents in his name (yes, including the ones he "released" from Tesla):
- D724,031; a patent for Tesla's charging port design
- 8,579,635; another patent for the shape of Tesla's charging port
- D683,268; the ornament design for Teslas
- D678,154; another patent for the shape of Tesla's orament

Meanwhile, a search for patent attributed to SpaceX turns up 7 results, and Tesla turns up 286

He isn't some 'super genius' engineer. He is a businessman who hires engineers to build systems for him. All he does is provide the money, and the hype.

This is a list of patent that have zero value to the argument... I guess you don't think vision and leadership mean anything. That's ok, not all people do.
 

mbrowne5061

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Elon Musk is an engineer and entrepreneur
Specifically, a software engineer. More specifically, a software engineer who hasn't practiced as one since he sold PayPal. He is not an aerospace engineer. He is not an electrical engineer. One of the first things they teach you in engineering is to never misrepresent yourself in a professional capacity. If you don't have a background in it, don't say a thing about it. Musk ignores this regularly.

Take Lisa Su. Excellent executive, who also used to be an electrical engineer. She doesn't call herself an engineer, or pretend to be one anymore. She presents herself as the CEO of AMD. Her background in electrical engineering helps her run AMD, usually by sniffing out the obvious BS as projects pass across her desk, but she is not spending her days in the labs or on the factory floors, physically designing and building processors. Musk needs to be more like Lisa Su if he wants more people to like him.

He doesn't just provide money and hype lol, he runs businesses in a directed way to enable real progress.
The guy at the very top is mostly responsible for closing deals, and providing a strategic direction to the company. AKA Money (deals) & hype (strategic direction).

His competitors aren't achieving the same progress that he is, that's for sure. I'm talking about past results that are measured instead of speculation (the so-called "hype" being his strong point in your opinion).

Look at Nissan, GM, and BMW. All of these were early entrants into the EV market but they were all outdone by Tesla in terms of vehicles sold.
A fair point about EVs.

His competitors aren't achieving the same progress that he is, that's for sure... Meanwhile in the rocket industry, Elon Musk has been able to make launching/landing the same rocket multiple times a common occurrence and no one else has been as successful.
Mostly because LHM/Boeing/ULA is the only other competitor, and prior to a few years ago, they could only afford to do R&D when the government asked them to develop a specific capability (at this point, they could maybe convince their investors to allow private R&D now that Falcon 9 is human-rated).

Being publicly traded severely limits a company's ability to invest in long-term R&D projects. Going public means a company now considers their products developed for the most part, and they'll be focusing on profit generation from then on.

There are exceptions, where investors will tolerate R&D that won't see a return on investment for years, but they're rare. So while SpaceX gets to live off of Musk's bankroll (I'll point out that they have never released a financial report, ever. They could be hemorrhaging money for all we know), LHM/Boeing/ULA has to live off of US government contracts, and can only do R&D when either the government pays for it, or the executive board manages to talk the major shareholders into tolerating private R&D efforts. ULA was never even going to get the chance to try building this kind of system until now, and they still won't unless their investors demand it, or the government decides that they want all their payloads on reusable rockets - and they decide they want a second source of reusable rockets (and Blue Origin fails to provide one).

You refer to one thing's success (Falcon 9) and then say it's unproven by pointing to a rocket under development. Of course Starship is unproven, it's still being prototyped and tested.

Focusing on the Falcon 9, a majority of its launches in the last three years have been with reused vehicles. It's had over 60 subsequent successful launches with the last failure in 2016. There have been only 3 landing failures in this time with lessons learned each time, so while it's not >99% successful yet, it's >90% successful. This is proven technology.
I made no reference to any of this. I have no problem with SpaceX's or Tesla's technology. My objection is to Musk as an "engineer" and the people who worship him as such.

Musk is a business man, nothing else, and has been this way for years.
 

Markoni35

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I wonder if he'll implant himself and his kid. Or will he just make a PR stunt, faking the implant. After all, he is certainly aware of the enormous danger that such implants would pose, even if the surgery succeeds (and many of them will certainly fail and cause brain-damage).
 

wiyosaya

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So how come we did not hear anything more about this. :confused: Unless this story is what all the hubbbub was about. - A pig with a chip in its brain that Musk says is healthy and happy. I wonder when Musk learned to speak pig?
 

wiyosaya

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I wonder if he'll implant himself and his kid. Or will he just make a PR stunt, faking the implant. After all, he is certainly aware of the enormous danger that such implants would pose, even if the surgery succeeds (and many of them will certainly fail and cause brain-damage).
PR Stunt. It appears that this was about a pig that they implanted a pig that Musk claims is happy and healthy. :laughing:
 

wiyosaya

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Specifically, a software engineer. More specifically, a software engineer who hasn't practiced as one since he sold PayPal. He is not an aerospace engineer. He is not an electrical engineer. One of the first things they teach you in engineering is to never misrepresent yourself in a professional capacity. If you don't have a background in it, don't say a thing about it. Musk ignores this regularly.

Take Lisa Su. Excellent executive, who also used to be an electrical engineer. She doesn't call herself an engineer, or pretend to be one anymore. She presents herself as the CEO of AMD. Her background in electrical engineering helps her run AMD, usually by sniffing out the obvious BS as projects pass across her desk, but she is not spending her days in the labs or on the factory floors, physically designing and building processors. Musk needs to be more like Lisa Su if he wants more people to like him.
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The guy at the very top is mostly responsible for closing deals, and providing a strategic direction to the company. AKA Money (deals) & hype (strategic direction).


A fair point about EVs.[/quote]
I doubt that will last long. Several of the bigger auto manufacturers have announced plans for EVs that have not yet hit the market. If they do, Tesla's reign at the top may be limited.


Musk is a business man, nothing else, and has been this way for years.
At least you get it.(y) (Y)
 

Lionvibez

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PR Stunt. It appears that this was about a pig that they implanted a pig that Musk claims is happy and healthy. :laughing:

To me it seems more a proof of concept, which will require the Scentific community and maybe some private companies to continue to improve and enhance it. Once enough eyes are on this and enough investment we may see some serious breakthroughs in a couple years. The human brain is complex and this will still require alot more work before even getting to human testing.

The improvement this may provide for paraplegics maybe life changing.

Gotta look at the big picture and down the road.
 

wiyosaya

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To me it seems more a proof of concept, which will require the Scentific community and maybe some private companies to continue to improve and enhance it. Once enough eyes are on this and enough investment we may see some serious breakthroughs in a couple years. The human brain is complex and this will still require alot more work before even getting to human testing.

The improvement this may provide for paraplegics maybe life changing.

Gotta look at the big picture and down the road.
Sounds to me that Musk may be attempting to get others to develop this like he did with hyperloop. I have to ask why? Has someone told him that it may not work as he hopes..

Looking at the big picture down the road is not necessarily a path forward nor does it guarantee any success.

There are others out there already looking at similar technology. https://www.livescience.com/22373-an-artificial-eye-that-can-see.html Musk is not really doing anything new. He probably saw some science fiction movie where a computer was hooked to somone's brain in the story and thought hey wouldn't that be cool if my brain had access to data like that. One problem, though, it was already in a movie, so it is not patentable. Few investors will sign on to something that has no potential for patent rights.
 

Markoni35

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To me it seems more a proof of concept, which will require the Scentific community and maybe some private companies to continue to improve and enhance it.

Let's hope they don't develop it so soon. Because very soon you won't be able to get a job without implanting yourself.

And regarding paraplegic, that's a bad argument. The proper way to solve their problems is by growing nerves and fixing the gap using natural material, instead of implanting them with crap. So... let's hope this doesn't take off.

Even though my past experiences say that all stinking crap usually gets very popular, while proper solutions get hidden in a safe. It has something to do with the wishes of the ruling elite, and impotent brains of the ordinary people. Based on that, this invention has a bright future, much like other similar crap before it.