Florida schools introducing armed drones that respond to shootings within seconds

[Puiu]

The problem is clearly the people though. Even if you could wave your magic wand and get rid of all the guns (which never happens in the way anybody wants it to, it winds up that the weapons all fall in the hands of thugs and our wonderful government which is always good and honest and righteous and would never do anything to hurt us!) you would still incur violence but in a different form. Just look at the UK, they’re dealing with stabbings and r*pe gangs at an alarming and unacceptable rate, but I guess since no guns were involved there is no problem? Get real.

The problem can be solved. You just don't want to.

"they’re dealing with stabbings and r*pe gangs" - the UK "stabbing" death rate is still WAY below the US. UK has 0.08 per 100k deaths (or 0.1% of all deaths) and the US has 0.53 per 100k deaths (or 0.5% of all deaths).

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2026

Statistics on stabbing deaths by country, detailing the number of knife-related deaths as well as the rate per 100,000 people, including the answer to which country has the most stabbing deaths.

worldpopulationreview.com

Using the UK as an example just proves that you don't care about reality and live in a bubble.

 

[Subset6]

I think part of the problem is folks just don’t want to parent anymore. The cellphone, social media are the new parents in many cases. Guns have been with Americans since forever but school shootings have not.

“The more connected you are, the more alone you become”. There is just something intrinsically rotten here and it’s not really guns.

 

[gamerk2]

Any type of regulation or control of weapons will not stop anyone who wants to kill as they will be creative in what they want to do. Regulations/Control only makes it not convenient.

Yes, heaven help us if we make it difficult to murder someone.

 

[Zintin]

This sounds more like a jail than a learning environment?

Funny you say that. You should see the fences they installed around the schools in Florida. They are basically jails.

 

[Jarenien]

If IRAN can convince a US Drone to land - effectively stealing it, what could a hacker do to an armed drone?

No: we already have armed drones to respond to active shooters: they're called police.

If done right, they'll do it to where they are literally unhackable, as you need to send the password fast enough for even correct passwords to be considered correct, which is how the gov't does it for super sensitive stuff/systems, which is why you haven't, and never will, hear of any major US systems being hacked.

 

[candle86]

The USA will do literally anything to avoid gun control.

Gun control isn't the actual issue it's the broken culture, put God back in schools and gun violence will go down. The issue isn't the gut look at countries where there have gun control England's a fine example where instead of mass shootings you have mass stabbings. The solution is to change the culture Western society didn't have a problem when Western society was a godly society.

 

[candle86]

Yes they will. This is a proven fact that nobody can deny. It has been done MANY times across the globe and the numbers are overwhelmingly against what you said.

And you gun lovers always think in the short term. Can't think beyond "they took out guns". Good regulations coupled with a shift in education will resolve this issue even if it takes 10-30 years. This isn't an one year problem, it's multi-generational.

But you are afraid of taking the first step... so afraid...

You just don't seem to understand just how f-ed up it is for teachers to carry guns in schools and to have drones with weapons flying around. Even freaking war torn countries don't do that. It's pathetic.

No I understand that if they take away our guns they can also take away or other rights My rights are protected by the fact I own a firearm. You want to know why people get arrested in England because they say the wrong thing that the government doesn't like anymore why protesting on religious grounds against certain things that you arrested? Because they disarmed the population. Why could Canada steal money for people's bank accounts because they protested the government action during COVID? Because they disarmed them first. The first ride any country will always take away is the right to protect yourself, once you no longer have the means to protect yourself and to defend your rights they will begin taking the rest of them away. No you can't have my gun, and I will never ever give it up because I see what's happened in the rest of world.

 

[opckieran]

The problem can be solved. You just don't want to.

"they’re dealing with stabbings and r*pe gangs" - the UK "stabbing" death rate is still WAY below the US. UK has 0.08 per 100k deaths (or 0.1% of all deaths) and the US has 0.53 per 100k deaths (or 0.5% of all deaths).

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2026

Statistics on stabbing deaths by country, detailing the number of knife-related deaths as well as the rate per 100,000 people, including the answer to which country has the most stabbing deaths.

worldpopulationreview.com

Using the UK as an example just proves that you don't care about reality and live in a bubble.

I live in a bubble? If you spent more than 5 seconds delving into those statistics, you'd see exactly WHO is committing the majority of violent crime per capita (with/without deadly weapons). You're trying to amalgamate the West as a whole for the sake of brevity, or, worse, out of contempt for it, but anybody with more than two braincells to rub together can see that there are clearly places that you would avoid walking through out of fear of the local wildlife. Not everybody gets to live in a rich neighborhood.

 

[lonetac]

Should bring school prayers back for a start.

Children are being set adrift, taught that the world is godless, nobody is out there who can help them, while fathers (or baby daddies) are absent, abusive, poor role models. Then these children reach teenage years and start absorbing extremist or nihilistic ideologies from the Internet, some of which are promulgated by video game antagonists or even protagonists / antiheroes. And finally, the creme de la creme: easy access to assault weapons.

So, to deal with the root, bring prayers back. Bring godliness back. Revere and worship our good and loving Jesus again. To deal with the symptoms, to apply band aids: ban assault weapons.

def leave the bible thumping out of schools. Christians have done enough damage and are some of the most hateful evil people in this country.

And I am a christian. I am embarassed to say based on how they act in this country and the values they hold up.

Either way, god has no place in school. Your god is no different than someone elses and is no more right than theirs. The difference is where you were born.

 

[opckieran]

def leave the bible thumping out of schools. Christians have done enough damage and are some of the most hateful evil people in this country.

And I am a christian. I am embarassed to say based on how they act in this country and the values they hold up.

Either way, god has no place in school. Your god is no different than someone elses and is no more right than theirs. The difference is where you were born.

We've long since thrown out those fundamental principles (which you so vehemently oppose) which, for centuries, was fully responsible for guiding what used to be high-trust, high-value societies (read, Western) towards being the preeminent pinnacle of the world, replacing those successful, proven principles with secularism and medication. Yet, even with today's rampant levels of violence and depression, people choose, in absurdity, to blame the framework which was clearly abandoned decades ago.


You've watched every indicator of societal and mental health crater over the past few decades, yet you double down on embracing the thinking that led to this.

 

[lonetac]

We've long since thrown out those fundamental principles (which you so vehemently oppose) which, for centuries, was fully responsible for guiding what used to be high-trust, high-value societies (read, Western) towards being the preeminent pinnacle of the world, replacing those successful, proven principles with secularism and medication. Yet, even with today's rampant levels of violence and depression, people choose, in absurdity, to blame the framework which was clearly abandoned decades ago.


You've watched every indicator of societal and mental health crater over the past few decades, yet you double down on embracing the thinking that led to this.

Religion is just an excuse to kill people in the name of god.

I see christians every day. Christianity helped me with an ethical ground to show empathy for everyone.

What I see in christianity from christians in the USA is hate. They dont espouse loving their neighbors, they hate them. They claim god wants them to destroy peoples lives who have less than them.

God has no business in schools. We are country free from religious persecution (in the USA). Preaching god just alienates others in the school who dont worship "your" god.

My relationship is personal. I dont force my values on anyone. I choose to live my life by the values I espouse, not ones forced on me by others.

You want to be religious and worship god, do it in your church and leave it out of our schools. Anyones interpretations of what god means to them has no business being taught to our kids.

Its not science based nor does it have any acedemic value.

 

[torvuswalds]

We've long since thrown out those fundamental principles (which you so vehemently oppose) which, for centuries, was fully responsible for guiding what used to be high-trust, high-value societies (read, Western) towards being the preeminent pinnacle of the world, replacing those successful, proven principles with secularism and medication. Yet, even with today's rampant levels of violence and depression, people choose, in absurdity, to blame the framework which was clearly abandoned decades ago.


You've watched every indicator of societal and mental health crater over the past few decades, yet you double down on embracing the thinking that led to this.

Yeah and replacing dedicated mental health counselors with chaplains will solve eeeeeeeeeverything. Not like the regular headlines about church members being arrested for diddling kids.

 

[gamerk2]

If done right, they'll do it to where they are literally unhackable, as you need to send the password fast enough for even correct passwords to be considered correct, which is how the gov't does it for super sensitive stuff/systems, which is why you haven't, and never will, hear of any major US systems being hacked.

*cough*Snowden*cough*

Sensitive systems aren't connected to the internet, and the ability to get things on/off are generally limited to CD/DVD to prevent most things that can launch off a USB stick (and even then, only cleared personnel can do this). The biggest threat to these systems are insider threats (See: Snowden), yet people make off with sensitive data more often then the government would like.

 

[gamerk2]

You've watched every indicator of societal and mental health crater over the past few decades, yet you double down on embracing the thinking that led to this.

Counterpoint: The parts of the US with the highest rate of both violence tend to be the most religious.

And lets be clear: Religion has for its entire existence been little more then an excuse to force societal norms on a population who otherwise ignore said religions core tenants when inconvenient. Generally speaking: Those who loudly proclaim how Christian they are tend to be the people who follow it's beliefs the least.

 

[DrSuess]

If done right, they'll do it to where they are literally unhackable, as you need to send the password fast enough for even correct passwords to be considered correct, which is how the gov't does it for super sensitive stuff/systems, which is why you haven't, and never will, hear of any major US systems being hacked.

I have worked on a lot of classified systems and have never come across the "send the password fast enough for even correct passwords to be considered correct" method. Like the normal world we used MFA (Common Access Card (CAC)) with a pin. We used MFA way before MFA became a thing on the internet.

The "send the password fast enough for even correct passwords to be considered correct" would provide weak security as anyone with a macro recorder/player and a stolen password could defeat this system.

 

[DrSuess]

Sensitive systems aren't connected to the internet, and the ability to get things on/off are generally limited to CD/DVD to prevent most things that can launch off a USB stick (and even then, only cleared personnel can do this). The biggest threat to these systems are insider threats (See: Snowden), yet people make off with sensitive data more often then the government would like.

Sensitive systems are connected to the internet if there is an operational need. They use end to end military grade encryption and the endpoints must be synchronized to send and receive messages. This is why the Chinese and Russians are so interested in disrupting undersea cables.

The STE (Secure Terminal Equipment) is an example of a device that is connect via public telephone lines or the internet that can be used to send/receive sensitive, secret, or top secret information using commercial/public infrastructure.

Here is a link about STE phones

Secure Terminal Equipment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[axiomatic13]

Should bring school prayers back for a start.

Children are being set adrift, taught that the world is godless, nobody is out there who can help them, while fathers (or baby daddies) are absent, abusive, poor role models. Then these children reach teenage years and start absorbing extremist or nihilistic ideologies from the Internet, some of which are promulgated by video game antagonists or even protagonists / antiheroes. And finally, the creme de la creme: easy access to assault weapons.

So, to deal with the root, bring prayers back. Bring godliness back. Revere and worship our good and loving Jesus again. To deal with the symptoms, to apply band aids: ban assault weapons.

What does that say to Buddhist ? Or Hindi? Or whatever god, or lack of god, you follow?

 

[candle86]

What does that say to Buddhist ? Or Hindi? Or whatever god, or lack of god, you follow? View attachment 90655

You found 4, and they made other statements to the opposite of this, as for as other faiths I don't care they are false religions, so their freedoms are totally irrelevant to me.

 

[gamerk2]

You found 4, and they made other statements to the opposite of this, as for as other faiths I don't care they are false religions, so their freedoms are totally irrelevant to me.

Lets play a game: Which sect of Christianity? Traditional, English, Baptist? Because there can only be one correct sect, so I hope we choose to codify the correct one. Sucks to be you if you follow the wrong sect and are forced to convert against you will to get any government aid/protection.

The above is *exactly* why the founders separated Government and Religion, because they saw what the Traditional/English split did to England/Ireland (and the effects of that split *still* impact today). But yeah, lets ignore all the bad things that will happen and force your belief system on everyone else because...reasons.

You are, at best, unaware of any of the underlying history involved here. At worst, you are intentionally trying to stir up trouble.

 

[lonetac]

Lets play a game: Which sect of Christianity? Traditional, English, Baptist? Because there can only be one correct sect, so I hope we choose to codify the correct one. Sucks to be you if you follow the wrong sect and are forced to convert against you will to get any government aid/protection.

The above is *exactly* why the founders separated Government and Religion, because they saw what the Traditional/English split did to England/Ireland (and the effects of that split *still* impact today). But yeah, lets ignore all the bad things that will happen and force your belief system on everyone else because...reasons.

You are, at best, unaware of any of the underlying history involved here. At worst, you are intentionally trying to stir up trouble.

Whats really ironic is his response reinforces my comment above. Christians in this country are extremely self centered, think the world should revolve around them and their beliefs being forced on everyone else.

They lack any empathy and dont demonstrate any of the Christian values that I was raised with. This is why it has no business in schools as its all open to ones own perverted interpretation to fit their confirmation bias.

I almost cringe now days when I call myself Christian to get lumped into guys like this.

 

[axiomatic13]

You found 4, and they made other statements to the opposite of this, as for as other faiths I don't care they are false religions, so their freedoms are totally irrelevant to me.

Lies, they were mostly deists who were fleeing an oppressive (EDIT: Anglican Church/Church of England) to new lands. That's the exact reason they had this opinion of Christianity.

 

[candle86]

Lets play a game: Which sect of Christianity? Traditional, English, Baptist? Because there can only be one correct sect, so I hope we choose to codify the correct one. Sucks to be you if you follow the wrong sect and are forced to convert against you will to get any government aid/protection.

The above is *exactly* why the founders separated Government and Religion, because they saw what the Traditional/English split did to England/Ireland (and the effects of that split *still* impact today). But yeah, lets ignore all the bad things that will happen and force your belief system on everyone else because...reasons.

You are, at best, unaware of any of the underlying history involved here. At worst, you are intentionally trying to stir up trouble.

Christianity is what's in the bible, America is a Chirstian nation, the founders never intended for non-Christian practice to be done here, the idea of Hindu's, Muslims ect, was never ever considered by them. They were all in good standing with their church and Church membership was required to also be in public service and that worked great until the 1950's, and what happened then? Well we got rid of God from government and suddenly we started having an increase in violence, increase in divorce, increase in unwed mothers. It all traces back to seperating an unspoken rule of you must be in good standing with your chuch to be in public office, and now we let muslims into congress, the founders would be rolling in their graves over terrorists sitting on captiol hill.

Lies, they were mostly deists who were fleeing an oppressive Catholic Church to new lands. That's the exact reason they had this opinion of Christianity.

considering that England hadn't been Catholic in 2 centuries prior you must be grossly misinformed

 

[gamerk2]

Christianity is what's in the bible, America is a Chirstian nation, the founders never intended for non-Christian practice to be done here, the idea of Hindu's, Muslims ect, was never ever considered by them.

Sure it did; they were fully aware of England denying office to individuals who did not follow the "correct" religion, and explicitly wanted to prevent that here.

They were all in good standing with their church and Church membership was required to also be in public service and that worked great until the 1950's,

Blatantly false.

and what happened then? Well we got rid of God from government and suddenly we started having an increase in violence, increase in divorce, increase in unwed mothers.

Or rapid industrialization, increase in the amount of time individuals are required to work to make a decent wage, rapid technological change, increase in the number of firearms, or a multitude of other factors.

Also worth noting the divorces are up in part because Women are no longer going to settle for a POS scumbag, since they can now provide for themselves. And that's a "good" thing.

It all traces back to seperating an unspoken rule of you must be in good standing with your chuch to be in public office, and now we let muslims into congress, the founders would be rolling in their graves over terrorists sitting on captiol hill.

Yep, everyone who isn't Christian is inherently a terrorist.

Mods, get some damn control because I'm tired of these guys derailing literally every thread.

 

[axiomatic13]

Christianity is what's in the bible, America is a Chirstian nation, the founders never intended for non-Christian practice to be done here, the idea of Hindu's, Muslims ect, was never ever considered by them. They were all in good standing with their church and Church membership was required to also be in public service and that worked great until the 1950's, and what happened then? Well we got rid of God from government and suddenly we started having an increase in violence, increase in divorce, increase in unwed mothers. It all traces back to seperating an unspoken rule of you must be in good standing with your chuch to be in public office, and now we let muslims into congress, the founders would be rolling in their graves over terrorists sitting on captiol hill.


considering that England hadn't been Catholic in 2 centuries prior you must be grossly misinformed

Yes, you are correct, they were fleeing the Anglican Church because they believed the Church of England was too much like the Catholic Church and wanted to establish their own, more purified forms of worship and practice their faith freely. Sorry I posted hastily as I am repulsed by the proselytization going on in here.

 

[JackMcHue]

The families of Uvalde would disagree.

Weak, dude. Uvalde was complete buffoonic incompetence and not indicative of the majority of police departments. If the Uvalde police had an armed drone, I seriously doubt anything would've been different. Nobody knew who was in charge and orders weren't being given. It was an utter breakdown of leadership and communication.