Jad Chaar
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Yes it is already known that it will be 20nm. The rest is all speculation.9970 leaked specs(20nm)-
forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=378506
Yes it is already known that it will be 20nm. The rest is all speculation.9970 leaked specs(20nm)-
forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=378506
I would like to see this can you provide a link of these official specs?
http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_Radeon_HD_8970_Feature_Summary.pdf
I am confused about these reviews mostly due to the fact that the Radeon 7990 was shown as a bad alternative to a 7970 Crossfire and worse than the GTX 690. In these tests it appears pretty much a great card.
The main issue with the 7990 isn't the stock performance just that it is at the whim of available Crossfire profiles, and in large part due to the almost non-existent overclocking headroom. The board will down throttle as soon as it reaches the boards max power- which it is fairly close to in stock trim. Any review of an enthusiast card has to take overclocking into account.I am confused about these reviews mostly due to the fact that the Radeon 7990 was shown as a bad alternative to a 7970 Crossfire and worse than the GTX 690. In these tests it appears pretty much a great card.
I think you'll find that the renaming furore will be reignited with Nvidia's next two releases. The GTX 770 (next week) will be a tweaked GTX 680 (with faster clocks especially memory, and the Boost 2.0 algorithm) followed by the GTX 760 Ti a little later using the same faster clocks/boost 2.0 to transform it from the GTX 670.Looks like all that renaming was just nonsense.
Maybe a quirk with the link (if you posted one) ? This article I presume?Can somebody tell me why so many of my comments get deleted in techspot.Even recent I posted titan outsold year old 690 and even nvidia PR is surprised about it and moment after it got deleted.Damn.
I also posted other gtx 780 reviews from Linus tech tips and techreport,and even it got deleted.What's happening to techspot forum discussions-it's open or not?
Not really, people who spent $1k on a Titan would know what they're getting themselves into. The extra 3GB VRAM will probably come in handy in some insane 7680x4800 tri-SLI Titan setup, and the Titan also has much better compute performance.It's really insulting to those who spent the 1000 dollars for a Titan to now see something that will perform so close to it for 350 from the same company.
Not really, people who spent $1k on a Titan would know what they're getting themselves into. The extra 3GB VRAM will probably come in handy in some insane 7680x4800 tri-SLI Titan setup, and the Titan also has much better compute performance.
Rumours of a Titan LE have been around since before Titan launched. Some of the original rumours also credited the LE with being even closer to the Titan in ability. Titan owners knew what they were getting into.This card is interesting and a nice add on for a new gen nvidia card. Though I feel it's a insult to those who bought the Titan because from the paper specs and the few benchmarks I've seen, it seems that the price to performance level of the 780 is wayyy better than the gtx Titan
1. Halo effect. Titan is still the numero uno of single GPU cards. GTX 780 hasn't changed that.and I'm curious as to why they would put that performance so close and then charge this price.
No one said it doesn't overclock. The point is that regardless of what input voltage you use and what clocks you set, the card is hard limited by the boards maximum power draw which downclocks the card. Don't believe me? there's PLENTY of evidence around: TPU...Tweaktown...Legit Reviews...G3D...Bit-tech...Also, the AMD 7990 overclocks just fine. Quit ranting on it, almost every person has been able to get a 1100 core on it with no effort at all.
Overclocking seems fine on the GTX 780 , and those numbers seem pretty much representative .Honestly, the clock speeds are lower this gen, but I would like to see some overclocking and once the drivers mature, we will see where it truly lies. But I think it's still a little too high. But I guess if they had gone any cheaper, Titan owners would have more to complain about with it.
Rumors are Rumors, believing them has gotten us nowhere so hearing that a "Titan LE" was coming out did not mean anything till NVidia officially announces it because most of the time, rumors turn to be false or things change.Rumours of a Titan LE have been around since before Titan launched. Some of the original rumours also credited the LE with being even closer to the Titan in ability. Titan owners knew what they were getting into.
As for overclocking the 7990, None of the Dual GPU cards ever overclock that far, It still is able to be overclocked, nuff said.No one said it doesn't overclock. The point is that regardless of what input voltage you use and what clocks you set, the card is hard limited by the boards maximum power draw which downclocks the card. Don't believe me? there's PLENTY of evidence around: TPU...Tweaktown...Legit Reviews...G3D...Bit-tech...
Makes no sense. If Nvidia could sell a 14SMX enabled GPU what were the odds that they could also put out a 13 or 12SMX version? More to the point, 1. When have Nvidia (or AMD for that matter) NOT marketed a salvage part, and 2. What were the chances that anyone dropping $1K on a Titan wasn't aware that there was a possibility of a castrated version arriving later ?Rumors are Rumors, believing them has gotten us nowhere so hearing that a "Titan LE" was coming out did not mean anything till NVidia officially announces it because most of the time, rumors turn to be false or things change.
They already seem to show a reasonable potential. As for the "couple of reviews", there are plenty around...if you can be bothered doing some minimal research. The Gigabyte OC is showing a 12% performance bump for a 10.5% core OC, while the EVGA SC shows 15% improvement for a 12% core OC.There are overclocks out there for the 780, yes that's true. What I am referring to is seeing more than a couple reviews with overclocks and as drivers mature what the overclocks will show.
Clock for clock there is little difference between a 2 and 4GB GTX 680, nor a 3 and 6GB 7970. These cards are architecturally limited (ROP especially), not especially limited by framebuffer.Yes 6gb makes a difference, but only on a very minute amount of setups ad even then, it still does not validate the price point when there are alternatives as I stated being the 4gb 680 and the 6gb 7970.
Makes no sense. If Nvidia could sell a 14SMX enabled GPU what were the odds that they could also put out a 13 or 12SMX version? More to the point, 1. When have Nvidia (or AMD for that matter) NOT marketed a salvage part, and 2. What were the chances that anyone dropping $1K on a Titan wasn't aware that there was a possibility of a castrated version arriving later ?
They already seem to show a reasonable potential. As for the "couple of reviews", there are plenty around...if you can be bothered doing some minimal research. The Gigabyte OC is showing a 12% performance bump for a 10.5% core OC, while the EVGA SC shows 15% improvement for a 12% core OC.
Drivers will show (presumably) gains against other cards. Drivers will not alter the percentage gain between a card in stock trim versus an overclocked one.
Not too shabby given that you're defending a card (the HD 7990) that produces maybe a 3% improvement with a 10% overclock.
Clock for clock there is little difference between a 2 and 4GB GTX 680, nor a 3 and 6GB 7970. These cards are architecturally limited (ROP especially), not especially limited by framebuffer.
As for the "minute amounts of setups" I think you'll find that the GTX Titan fits that demographic pretty well...unless you are telling me that the Titan is a prodigious seller in comparison with other cards.