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Help choosing a distro

By HiDDeNMisT ยท 38 replies
Aug 2, 2011
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  1. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,247   +448

    Yep - I sure do - and I've already installed the VB Additions in the OS. I also have the video mem set to 128 in the VM.
  2. open a terminal in the guest and post output of:

    glxinfo | grep render
  3. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,247   +448

    glxinfo | grep render
    direct rendering: Yes
    OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
        GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp, GL_NV_fragment_program, 
    Haven't had much time to do any troubleshooting yet so I haven't really tried anything.

    Also, for grins
    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
    # VirtualBox generated configuration file
    # based on /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
    Section "Monitor"
      Identifier   "Monitor[0]"
      ModelName    "VirtualBox Virtual Output"
      VendorName   "Oracle Corporation"
    Section "Device"
      BoardName    "VirtualBox Graphics"
      Driver       "vboxvideo"
      Identifier   "Device[0]"
      VendorName   "Oracle Corporation"
    Section "Screen"
      SubSection "Display"
        Depth      24
      Device       "Device[0]"
      Identifier   "Screen[0]"
      Monitor      "Monitor[0]"
    and Screenshot
  4. It's using software rendering.

    Post outputs

    grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri
  5. tehbanz

    tehbanz TS Enthusiast Posts: 183   +10

    i'm a long time linux user, started with ubuntu 8 or so, just recently got into different distrubutions. first i switched straight to debian squeeze, I absolutely LOVED it, got it all configured and had it running all smooth and sexy for like a week.
    Then X got an upgrade which broke my nvidia drivers (switching to nouveau was not an option) :( i tried to revert to my old version of X but kept getting weird issues after that. i then decided to poke around and find a new distro.

    I used PCLinuxOS for awhile, but found it horrendously bloated and had very poor support, their forums were nearly dead and google results hardly found any info on pclos. So, on to a new distro

    thus Arch enters, and let me say i am impressed. Arch is rock solid and a VERY core linux distro, i've got all my hardware configured and am now on to configuring my WMFS. it uses the "Pacman package manager" similar to apt-get for those debian users out there (Install a package pacman -S foo) and it also includes the painstakingly maintained "AUR" package repository which has much of the software and hardware drivers/firmware all users need.

    Another thing arch likes to boast is their philosophy they follow the KISS (keep it simple stupid!) idea really close and believe simplicity is elegant and essentially what most linux users strive for.

    The main thing i love about Arch is their documentation, it's EXTREMELY well maintained, most everything you need to find can be located on their wiki and forum response time is roughly under 30 minutes.

    Also, Arch is very lightweight I believe my entire root partition is currently under 1gb with a max of 15gb, incredibly fast, and elegant.

    If you're sick and tired of your generic ubuntu i recommend giving it a try. hell run it in a VM for awhile, guarantee it will become your distro of choice soon!
  6. steeve

    steeve TS Enthusiast Posts: 146

    nice words, tehbanz

    yes, i share your enthusiasm for arch - i have built a couple of nice arch setups.

    it is a lot of fun to be able to custom build a system almost from the ground up. and the arch community is very active and supportive - the great documentation and repos. pacman makes it super easy to install new components.

    i got off to a bad start with arch, though. because the arch installer is quite "stripped down" and no gui of course - you have to know what you are doing. partition names used by the installer were different from what i expected and the worst happened - the old "write over existing partitions" trick.

    anyway i was able to recover most of the material, put it down to experience (everyone has to go through it once, right?) and arch and i went to build a nice friendship
  7. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,797   +116

    Aye, we've all been there. I lost count of the partitions I killed in the very beginning. I even once did it twice in a row with Slackware, being too tired and otherwise distracted really does sometimes spell disaster when using the command line.

    I genuinely think its something you have to do sometimes in order to learn something.
  8. steeve

    steeve TS Enthusiast Posts: 146

    well i hope i have learned now!

    actually, as a result of such disasters (and as you say, they can just be caused by tiredness or momentary loss of concentration/judgenment) i sometimes now physically disconnect my drives with valuable data before installing a new OS. then integrate them back into the boot system later.

    it seems to me that the picture is something like this - only a small 'plateau'

  9. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,797   +116

    I actually did it fairly recently with a Windows installation. I removed both of the partitions on the previous disk without thinking, and then proceeded to install on a completely separate hard disk. Took me 12 hours to do a deep surface scan, and then about 24 hours on and off to filter through over 10,000,000 files to retrieve it all. :haha:

    The cause; tiredness and frustration having spent the greater part of a day swapping out components on my new build to no avail. I actually did it re-installing W7 on my backup PC in the early hours of the morning. Thing is I wiped the disk I didn't even need to touch to begin with.

    I now run a RAID for my data backup, and all my "home folders" are linked to that, so I never have that issue again.

    So I clearly haven't learnt. :haha:
  10. I assume that was while squeeze was still testing? The stable branch does not get updated versions of packages, which is why it doesn't break.

    It also very much depends on how you installed proprietary drivers. If you did it the "debian way" - installed from the repos - it will get updated along with xorg. If you installed it from the "nvidia_installer_name.run" shell script then you do need to reinstall it almost every time there is an xorg update or kernel update.


    It's a case if "you break it, you get to keep both pieces" (an old one, but a good one).

    I've also messed up partitioning on a few occasions, "we've all been there" indeed...
  11. steeve

    steeve TS Enthusiast Posts: 146

    a grueling process. what software did you use for the recovery? (note the underlying fear that it may happen again)

    that's the great thing about debian - you can choose whether you want to live safely or 'on the edge'
  12. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,797   +116

    Aye, but on the edge is still more stable than Ubuntu's current version! :haha:

    I used Recuva. I've always had great success with it, but recovering everything is a gruelling process. The process is much faster if you search one filetype.
  13. steeve

    steeve TS Enthusiast Posts: 146


    good to know, but hoping i will never need it!
  14. Gday HiDDeNMisT,

    I would recommend Mandriva for someone new to Linux. They have both a free version and a very cheap paid version which includes some commercial software. They even have a mobile version which is run off a USB key. Also you can plug into Penguin Liberation Front to get more packages which are not found in the base distribution.

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