How to prove in a court of law that a similar email address is not mine?

[Steven Blood]

Need some help a individual created emails using a email similar to mine. How do I prove its not me?

 

[DelJo63]

First, are both accounts on the SAME ISP, eg: both are on @gmail.com?
If not, then you could show your ISP is not his ISP.

 

[Steven Blood]

First, are both accounts on the SAME ISP, eg: both are on @gmail.com?
If not, then you could show your ISP is not his ISP.

the address he used is on gmail I am xyz@gmail he is xyzinc@gmail how do I get his ISP

 

[DelJo63]

You are BOTH using the same GMAIL service, so this approach fails.

• I am xyz@gmail
  
• he is xyzinc@gmail

while similar, there is NO confusion at all between these email addresses.

• xyz@gmail
  
• xyz@hotmail

This is not confusing either, but easily misread

I see no reason for you to be concerned.

 

[Cycloid Torus]

"he is xyzinc@gmail" This is a 'real' address, just not yours. The court doesn't 'know' that. Justice is blind. You have to show them in detail. Only what you PROVE will have any meaning for the court. I do not think they are even allowed to 'know' whether it is raining out or not.

Ask your lawyer if the sworn written statement of a Doctorate in IT would be sufficiently 'expert' to explain that this address of his is not yours or, failing that, that it cannot be a legitimate identifier specific to you or to anyone. Then hire such 'expert', possibly from local college/university.

IANAL so check what I have suggested with competent legal advisor.

PS Is what happened here like an Identity Theft?

 

[DelJo63]

AH BUT HE USED THE FORGED ADDRESS TO SUBMIT EMAILS AND START A LEGAL ACTION WITH DEPARTMENT OF LABOR MY ATTORNEY SAYS I HAVE TO PROVE THE EMAIL IS NOT MINE

Remind your lawyer that infact, email never has any authenticated ownership. No proof of identity is required to create an email address. Gmail is a world wide FREE service and anyone anywhere can acquire an email address as long as it is not previously allocated.

No IP address is sufficient either as from day to day the IP address can change due to the ISP release/renew for clients once beyond the Lease Period.

The department of labor would need better ID information than just an email address to begin any action. That person would need more info to file any lawsuit.

 

[TheDreams]

Not sure why they would even think that it is you, each email address is unique, no matter how similar. There is absolutely no case there, no matter what they're saying.

 

[Cycloid Torus]

Not sure why they would even think that it is you, each email address is unique, no matter how similar. There is absolutely no case there, no matter what they're saying.

True, but the court cannot usually make that judgement without corroboration unless you have a judge who regards it as common knowledge - and not many are IT experts..

 

[DelJo63]

Don't forget that the burden of proof is on the plaintiff, not you.

 

[DelJo63]

In most cases, filing a frivolous lawsuit will lead to a civil fine of a certain amount of dollars (sometimes in the thousands). It may also lead to a contempt order. ... Also, lawsuit should never be filed for personal reasons or to "get back" at a certain person or corporation.Apr 16, 2018

If they file factually errant lawsuit, counter file against them

 

[MaikuTech]

Screenshot your sent box from gmail.com
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-track-the-IP-address-of-a-Gmail-sender
Also get in touch with gmail directly and inquire about records.
If they have it, which I am very sure they do, they will send it back showing your ip adress with the date.
https://support.google.com/mail?ctx=gcp#topic=7065107
The first post about joe statement is untrue, if they asked you directly to do it, they mean business.

 

[DelJo63]

Sorry; The email server may not literally be associated with your Internet Service Provider(ISP). Certainly yours is not as you're using GMAIL.

Our ISP (originally) was Roadrunner and Email was/is a free service:

Roadrunner
Read: mail.twc.com {where the client Inbox resides}

Write: smtp-server.roadrunner.com {the out going server}​

Today, we have multiple email addresses, some are on Gmail.

imap.gmail.com

smtp.gmail.com​

A web browser interface will not show the email headers, but they are still there.

Just remember, that email server addresses will remain constant and are reliable while client addresses (aka users like you and me) can easily change and are unreliable.

An email client like Outlook or Thunderbird can view the details which will show the IP addresses,
(I've annotated the addresses with '<< owner's name' per nslookup or whois) eg:

X-Account-Key: account13
X-UIDL: 5005f86c-569f-11e9-b11d-e0adf92c9f3f
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:                                                                                
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
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