Intel Core i3-12100F Review: The New Budget Champ

[Dimitrios]

Not sure why but after seeing these benchmarks I have an urge to see how Intel Xeon's are doing since some have used them in gaming rigs years back.

 

[Nintenboy01]

Not sure why but after seeing these benchmarks I have an urge to see how Intel Xeon's are doing since some have used them in gaming rigs years back.

recent games seem to favor high clocks and IPC so they'll likely not do too well.

 

[Strawman]

AMD is the only reason why we even saw CPUs like the 12100 in the timeframe we did.

If not for AMD, Intel would happily still sell us 14nm++++++++++++++++ CPUs and 4 Core CPU's as the high-end mainstream customer option practically until the seas 'gone dry and the rocks melt with the sun.

That's absolutely not true actually, the only parts you wouldn't have seen is cometlake and coffeelake refresh, the whole plan from like 10 years ago was to move to 10nm. But that got delayed cause of production issues, AMD had nothing to do with it.

 

[manbearboar]

In my environment both 12100 and 12400 don't make sense because of total platform cost for socket 1700.
10400/11400 or 5600X ends up as a better options.

 

[sreams]

Tell that to AMD.

I'm not sure there is any evidence that AMD is being complacent. The 5xxx series was a significant improvement over the 3xxx series, and the next generation is imminent.

 

[Daniele 00]

You could go back and forth with statements formed like that. Here:
AMD wouldn't have made Ryzen if Intel wasn't stagnant.
...

as you have said. INTEL was stagnant. It was INTEL fault. You really have a reason to upset INTEL for robbing your money...
Anyone thinking INTEL was just doing business ? Company are ment to do profit ? Allright, just watch where this philosophy carried us... before justifing INTEL and such. Capitalism always makes most of the people poorer, just a tiny bit of people enrich.

 

[Shhzjajauaha616]

Not really (Yes it should be lower, but there's no way it can get as low as the intel competing midrange products while still being profitable it's just older tech): AMD just needs actual low end chips: it's been a long time since they don't produce or sell any Ryzen 3 tier CPUs.

So I don't really see the 5600x as losing to the 12100F, I just see it as intel wining by default: opposite team just didn't show up and intel wins the budget category just by having a budget product you can actually buy.

What AMD should do (And probably would do if they didn't have to wait in line for TSMC allocation after Apple has everything they want and AMD gets the scraps that fall off their table) is just release a cut down version of defective 5600g as a 5300g: a 6/6 chip. Maybe even a 5200 non g for when those 5600g have manufacturing issues on those graphics (Unless they can slightly cut them but cutting those any more makes them basically not really usable anymore)

But anyone that bought a 5600x since over a year ago has no reason to upgrade to a 12100 or a 12400 at all since well, we're talking over a year of not having a real intel rival: that's a great purchase if you ask me.

Lol still amd need price cut , why u are comparing i3 to 5600x , compare i5 12400f to ryzen 5 5600x , it's much cheaper than 5600x .

 

[Shhzjajauaha616]

I guess AMD is hamstrung a bit by not having their own fabs. Intel can churn these out more cheaply. Personally I like the i5-12500 best since that extra 200 MHz over the 12400 can get it over the 5800X's single core perf and that much closer to matching multicore perf.

It's so much difficult to have fab which work properly than simply designing something.
Even trillion dollar apple doesn't have it's own fab .
It need more research and technology too.
Do u think building a factory is simple as designing something ?

 

[Dimitriid]

Lol still amd need price cut , why u are comparing i3 to 5600x , compare i5 12400f to ryzen 5 5600x , it's much cheaper than 5600x .

1) I did say exactly that: Still needs a price cut. I qualified my statement by stating the logic and obvious: intel is ahead in price and comparable if not better performance by being a full year late, yes that means a year behind actually

2) Why do you suppose I would compare the i3 to a Ryzen 5? Could it be maybe because we're commenting on an article that implied exactly that?

I generally don't have a taste for discussing things with people that intentionally misrepresent the very text they're quoting so don't think this will be a back and forth, is mostly for the benefit of other people, not you.

 

[captaincranky]

If not for AMD, Intel would happily still sell us 14nm++++++++++++++++ CPUs and 4 Core CPU's as the high-end mainstream customer option practically until the seas 'gone dry and the rocks melt with the sun.

See, and who said AMD wasn't good for anything?

 

[captaincranky]

Regarding the prices - did you check retailers ? Amazon and Microcenter don‘t list any, Bestbuy is sold out and Newegg lists it for $177,

Newegg has been ripping a page from the fashion industry's book lately. That's where you raise the price $20.00 the week before you put it on sale for $10.00 off..

Through the Christmas season I was able to buy 870 EVO 500 GB drives for $50.95. Today the 870 EVO 250 GB is "on sale" at Newegg for $66,95. Of course, that's "on sale", down from $79.95

I would swear I saw the i5-12400 at Micro Center for $169.95 with 25+ in stock. So, $177.00 for an i3-12100 @ Newegg is way off the table.

I frankly don't understand how Intel expects to sell any of this "F" suffix sh!t, with the graphics card situation the way it is..

With its higher base clock, I would swear that the i3-12100 (no F), for most purposes, is a better option that the 6 core i5.

I'm still not springing for one at over the MSRP, which is $129.00 (I think).

 

[Sausagemeat]

You could go back and forth with statements formed like that. Here:
AMD wouldn't have made Ryzen if Intel wasn't stagnant.
...

It’s just desperate fanboys wanting you to thank their preferred brand for the chips that makes much more sense to buy.

This i3 12100F is far more impressive in the budget space than anything AMD have released since Ryzen and before.

AMD are now a premium only option. If you want something branded with “AMD” you have to pay for the privilege. If you only want to spend say $200 then AMD don’t care about you at all and aren’t interested in selling you anything. Right now in the U.K. you can get a 12100F and a motherboard for less than the price of a 5600X on its own.

Personally I think you’d have to be a lunatic to choose AMDs options at their current prices over Intels stuff. Amazing how much changes in a year.

 

[skaven]

Never had at home something below i7's, didn't know i3 is a quad core + HT this days.
Pretty impressive performance for an entry CPU.

and imagine, without AMD this will be another i7

 

[flee2020]

Did the memory actually run at 3200 or was it capped at 2666 like the 10100? I don't believe the 10100 could go beyond 2666 on a b or h 500 series board, but i5 and up could. Curious about the 12100 though.

On Z690, H670 and B660 motherboards, memory overclocking is allowed. DDR4 3200 is the base frequency on these boards.

 

[flee2020]

In my environment both 12100 and 12400 don't make sense because of total platform cost for socket 1700.
10400/11400 or 5600X ends up as a better options.

For me, AMD does not make sense as the CPU prices are way, way higher, even for the R5 3600 - its a choice between i3-12100 and i5-11400. Right now the i3-12100F/B660M combo is about on par with the i5-11400F/B560M combo but I think the 11th Gen combo will see price reductions once the i3-12100 supplies improve.

 

[flee2020]

and imagine, without AMD this will be another i7

Competition improves the breed.

AMD killed the Intel Pentium 4 with the Athlon. Core killed Athlon. Ryzen rose from the ashes of Athlon to beat Core and now, the latest gen Core is wreaking havoc to Ryzen... Can't wait to see what the Zen 4 Ryzens will do!

Long live competition.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Yeah, buy Intel CPUs again because ten years of sandbagging us wasn't long enough, eh?

I didn't contribute to it last time and I won't be contributing to it again.

 

[Danny101]

AMD really pushed them, they turned from a stagnant company releasing marginally faster CPUs every generation to releasing budget options that should satisfy the vast majority of the market.

Not really, IMO. Intel was sandbagging, coasting. As soon as competition rises up, they get a fire up the yin yang.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

In my environment both 12100 and 12400 don't make sense because of total platform cost for socket 1700.
10400/11400 or 5600X ends up as a better options.

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