Intel Core i3 vs. Core i5 vs. Core i7: What do you get by spending more?
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SuperVeloce
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@dividedbyzero... yes, this is exactly the article I had in mind. And while I agree i3 is quite capable and I (in most cases) recommend it over any AMD when it comes to gaming, this issue will stay with us until DX12/vulcan and the likes becomes the norm for games development.
melkiik
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Thanks for excellent comparison, it it very helpful! Kaley WS
SuperVeloce
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i7 2600k and i5 2500k are 4 years old and much higher on the performance ladder
melkiik
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i7 2600k and i5 2500k are 4 years old and much higher on the performance ladder
Says tricky ****
Phenom beats the i5 easily on modern platforms. Intel might be stronger on single threaded action, but on multithread and memory intensive programs (which most of the programs these days are) amd is positively ahead.
When it comes to i7 26k, I remember compairing these two, but after they put a hefty price tag along to go with it, I decided that t1100 is more bang for the buck. Actually after the 2011 pricing they didn't even compete in the same series. Admitting of course that it is more powerful, in many ways. One thing it lacks though is 3Dnow!" which, still enables me to play many old games with decent framerates and without compatability issues
Can you do that Intel? No. Give them 1000fps on that one, and 0 on the other old title.So I'd say this is win win.
cliffordcooley
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I know this is just one link but it doesn't support your claim.
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/448/AMD_Phenom_II_X6_1100T_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-2500K.html
What is the definition of insignificantly? You basically cherry picked for an excuse to buy AMD. That's fine though! If you are happy with your purchase, I'm happy for you. In the end that is all that matters.
lripplinger
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A great article! Thank you for breaking down the differences like you did. I tend to favor just going with the i5 chips for my client builds. I would rather go overkill and hopefully have better longevity, than over the i3. Dual core chips I have a feeling will become a thing of the past like single core chips did. But that is just my opinion.
TheBigFatClown
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A great article! Thank you for breaking down the differences like you did. I tend to favor just going with the i5 chips for my client builds. I would rather go overkill and hopefully have better longevity, than over the i3. Dual core chips I have a feeling will become a thing of the past like single core chips did. But that is just my opinion.
Everything eventually becomes a thing of the past but the question is when? Your philosophy seems to be of the 'better safe than sorry' classification. But the false premise that it is based on, is that you can't ever upgrade to a quad-core later when dual-core CPUs "ACTUALLY DO" become a thing of the past. When dual-cores become obsolete, they will stop making them. Then you will have to buy a quad-core or higher.
I still have not come down with a final judgement on whether I wasted my money or not on a quad-core. For people who multi-task it seems like a no-brainer to go quad-core. The implicit suggestions in this article still bother me a bit. Those being that a quad-core CPU is overkill for gamers. Most people who play games on Windows operating systems do more than just a play game in isolation. Windows is a multi-tasking operating system. Maybe this question needs to be revisited from a different perspective?
How much faster and smoother does Windows 7, 8, 8.1 8.2 AKA 10 operating system run in "general" as the foundation of ALL software on a dual-core versus a quad-core CPU? All the results are measuring multi-core performance at the application level, what about the operating system level?
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Peter Farkas
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it beats it. big time. it always did.Hail amd. Still rocking 4 years old 1100t
Steve, would it be possible to have this same test battery run against an identical setup with the G3258 stock and overclocked? I have a "backup" mid level gaming machine with one @4.4Ghz paired with an r9 270 that I assembled out of parts I had sitting around. I'm more than satisfied with its performance for the money, but it would be nice to have a set of concrete data with explicit numerical comparisons such as the ones in this article to reference when helping friends considering budget builds, especially with the ability to compare the overclocked pentium to stock i3s. I considered doing it myself, but not having an identical setup means the comparison to this article would be basically worthless.
The point of this article was to compare the Core i3, Core i5 and Core i7 product lines at the same or very similar clock speeds. This allows us to see how much difference the changes in cores/threads and cache makes to performance without the influence of clock speed.
We have already provided in-depth G3258 testing where we compared it to the Core i3, Core i5 and Core i7 processors...
https://www.techspot.com/review/849-intel-pentium-anniversary-edition-overclock/
In short we feel spending a little more on the Core i3 is probably the best move in most cases.
Apologies, I didn't realize there was already a comprehensive article on this. I should have just searched. Thanks for the link!
You are welcome, hope you enjoy the article.
deemon
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You're wrong! Roughly 50% more, not twice.
The quality of your posts really is something. Thanks for pointing that out, it wasn’t a complete waste of time and entirely irrelevant. What’s more is he isn’t even wrong, depending on spec and memory brand pricing is as much as 100% more. The Corsair value select range costs 65% more, the margins are much higher on the premium memory.
melkiik
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Cherry picked; guess I did. But let's not start the never ending amd vs. Intel battle.
And referring to my opinion. It is not only based on that article. Sure I've read that too, but the proof stands also in my hand built machines. One of my friends is still rocking 2500k, and after 4 years of equally intensive gaming, his isn't performing aswell as my AMD. So also value overtime is also superior. Conditions of the cases and cooling were both carefully planned and built. And both have had their thermal compound changed in 2013, mine also 2014 when the cooler was changed and the chip was overcloked for the first time. On my friends system, overcloking sadly isn't a option, due to the motherboard.
What chip you are on these days`?
cliffordcooley
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Me? I'm not much better than your buddy. I have a 2600K on a board that will overclock, although I'm not overclocking.
melkiik
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Saving the rock. That is in most cases the way to go. And as I wrote earlier 2600k is a good chip. Wonder how long my 1100t will last with these clocks. Temps aren't that high even in stress, max 43,8 c and stable 32 c on idle. And I consider that okay for a chip as old as this one.
Secretly though I'm dreaming of upgrading it, but let's wear the old boy out first
Also not sure what happens if I slot a FX-type amd to my old mb. Would love to try though.
melkiik
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Damn really like this review but it misses one thing
AMD processors.
If with each Intel CPU you another another one with the same price tag from AMD it would really just give us the best review for CPUs
Ty anyways
Couldn't agree more. Steve, would it be possible to have one done?
Damn really like this review but it misses one thing
AMD processors.
If with each Intel CPU you another another one with the same price tag from AMD it would really just give us the best review for CPUs
Ty anyways
We have done plenty of AMD vs. Intel reviews in the past, this one was titled
"Intel Core i3 vs. Core i5 vs. Core i7: What do you get by spending more?"
For a reason
Couldn't agree more. Steve, would it be possible to have one done?
It's been done
https://www.techspot.com/review/943-best-value-desktop-cpu/
https://www.techspot.com/review/816-intel-haswell-refresh-and-z97-platform/
https://www.techspot.com/review/875-intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e/
https://www.techspot.com/review/837-intel-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon/
Peter Farkas
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I give you the best review now: Forget AMD CPUs if you are gaming with a discrete graphics card.Damn really like this review but it misses one thing
AMD processors.
If with each Intel CPU you another another one with the same price tag from AMD it would really just give us the best review for CPUs
Ty anyways
Peace
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