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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D vs. Intel Core i9-14900K: 45 Game Benchmark
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Stole his name AND his face!
The German Magazine PC Games Hardware Just tested exactly that. Example: on Baldurs Gate 3 the difference between 9800x3d and 14000k was at 30%. Other Games Had No difference at all or even the Intel winning by some small margin. So depending on the Game, the CPU can be much more important than you think!
You can Look it Up, its all German but the graphs should be easy enough to understand. I'd put a Link in Here but don't know If that's okay...
I think what he meant to say is AMD GPU have more raw power than Nvidia card, and while Nvidia win in case of dlss and Ray Tracing (the Nvidia developed it smh) without both of that (meaning only raw performance) AMD will always dominate on the price range
Seems like Author of this post is Steve himself from Hardware Unboxed lol
Burty117
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But that's not true and the 4090 has more "raw" power than anything AMD has? Or are you trying to say, every... single... reviewer out there is wrong? Also, AMD don't dominate in the price range, they don't have any offerings in the 4090 price range...
Also not true, "Smart Access Memory" is just AMD's marketing term for Resizable BAR Support, Which Nvidia GPU's also support.
The issue is nobody plays games like that, so yes the 9800x3d is faster at 1080p but who cares, do you spend 2k plus on a gpu and another 500 on a cpu to play games at 1080p or 4k?
and when you take the cpu out of the mix, at 1440p and more so at 4k its the gpu that matters.
As demonstrated earlier, even at 4k the CPU can Matter. Depends entirely on the Game.
This is partly due to the same mentality as Apple and Sony. You have to pay extra for the Intel name, even if it has lower performance compared to AMD. It's like an Apple tax, but for the Intel brand.
The crazy part is that all recent games recommend a high end cpu. For example Kingdom Come 2 recommends 7800X3D, Indiana Jones 7900x. Dragon Age Vanguard 7950x. Stalker 2 says 7700x but some are complaining that it's still cpu bound all at 4k.
Eldrach
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Currently using the 9800 X3D and a 4090 - playing at 1440p, my testing so far indicates that I get much less spikes in fps in games like Cyberpunk - I have gained around 15 solid fps compared to my 5900x, but I no longer experience fps drops. I plan on going for a 5090 when it arrives, which will put more strain on the cpu for sure in 1440p
I managed to score a 9800X3D on launch day and ended up deciding to build a new system. I went with an RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB since anything higher just seemed like a waste with the RTX 5000 series arriving in a month (especially since they slowed manufacturing of the 4090 and drove its prices sky high). 5080/90 is in my sights too since I'd prefer 4K with a TV.
This system is fantastic for 1440P for though, and the 9800X3D seems to really help out with the minimum FPS I get. 1440P + DLAA (AI AA with no upscaling) for STALKER 2, Indiana Jones (bundled), and POE 2 seems to be the sweet spot. Enjoying the new build :].
umeng2002
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Yes, DLAA is very nice when you have the GPU power to run. Also DL-DSR is nice for games that lack DLSS but are still too demanding for 4x super sampling.
Techspot uses runs in game that can be duplicated. So they are real world.
Actually, I would like them to also use built in benchmarking when available so we can see how our machines stack up at home.
I don't see that. Sales numbers don't reflect that either. 9800X3D is king for gaming. 7800X3D is queen and then there's everyone else.
Even Ryzen 9700X beats 285K in gaming while costing 60% less or so, and consuming half the power or less.
I hope no-one buys 285K for gaming tho.
If you only want Intel and solely play games, don't buy an i9 today. Simply wasted money and power. You literally gain nothing in games from an i7.
i9 = Paying for E-cores.
takemaru
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I still 'member, when it was 2003, and Athlon64 came out! 20 years agooo, my beard got graaay since then!
9800x3d in stock at Microcenter a plenty. My local Microcenter has more than 25 in stock. Yes you can purchase it at $456 with 5% membership discount.
https://www.microcenter.com/product...-8-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included
https://www.microcenter.com/product...-8-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included
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LimyG
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AMD is back on form. Perhaps even more so than the decade/decades old Athlon which was amazing.
Then AMD lost the plot, altought pricing and high core requirment software was still relevant to them.
Now, especially for gaming this must be like a nightmare for Intel. They seem to be shell shocked as they have no answer for this, not yet anyway.
AMD have completely out classed Intel, particularly in gaming, but not just that.
I've never bought an AMD CPU before and have been building desktops for over 20 years.
My next one will absolutely be AMD. Never thought I would even think that, let alone write it in a public forum!
Then AMD lost the plot, altought pricing and high core requirment software was still relevant to them.
Now, especially for gaming this must be like a nightmare for Intel. They seem to be shell shocked as they have no answer for this, not yet anyway.
AMD have completely out classed Intel, particularly in gaming, but not just that.
I've never bought an AMD CPU before and have been building desktops for over 20 years.
My next one will absolutely be AMD. Never thought I would even think that, let alone write it in a public forum!
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