Intel Core i9-9900K and Core i7-9700K Review

Dude, come on. We are past these arguments that were made 1 and a half years ago when Ryzen appeared and everyone was still doubting about it. Ryzen is a fantastic CPU, within 10% gaming performance of Intel,
5% to 20% difference, over 15-19% in many games when comparing the 2700 to the 8400, I posted a link to a Youtube review.

so no one cares about 135FPS for Ryzen vs 145FPS on Intel.
But people do care about 45FPS vs 62FPS when trying to play at 4K 60hz, and people do care about 120FPS vs 144FPS when trying to game at 2K/144Hz.

Ryzen 5 2600 is the counterpart for i5 8400. It is 20$ cheaper than 8400, comes with a cooler (so i5 8400 is more like 200$).
The Ryzen 2700 loses to the i5 8400 in games and cost more, I didn't bring up the Ryzen 5 2600, I'd have to look into that.

Open your eyes and see that no one is bashing Intel for no reason.
The people on here who stick up for a brand no matter what are quite obvious. I've recommended Ryzen chips before, excellent value, but they don't win the value segment everytime, and when it comes to gaming only builds, Intel is still the way to go IMO.
 
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....But people do care about 45FPS vs 62FPS when trying to play at 4K 60hz, and people do care about 120FPS vs 144FPS when trying to game at 2K/144Hz....

Please show me a game where Ryzen is holding back fps at 4k and by over 30% at that. You could probably get more than 45 fps on a 10 year old dual core.
 
It was easy to overclock my i7-9700k using ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac motherboard and a corsair H60 120mm liquid cooler to 5.0ghz on all 8 cores and temps average 65c on full load under Passmark, Userbenchmark, and real gaming loads.

Voltage is set manually in my bios to 1.35 and in CPUz, watching it during benchmarks and gaming loads, I have seen a max of 1.387v briefly where it hovers around 1.302-1.375 volts during stress.

Again, my temps on the graph in MSI Afterburner with polling set to 1000ms never see it go above 70c for an occasional spike then dropping to below 65c and hovering around 65-68c for the duration of the stress test. During normal CPU heavy gaming, it stays right around 65c.

Not sure what this article is referring to with the statement:

"Overclocking these 8-core parts to 5.1 GHz wasn’t easy, it required 1.375v and a massive liquid cooler, you aren’t hitting this frequency with a 240mm closed loop cooler, 5 GHz is probably off the table as well, but we will talk about thermal performance soon."

I didn't want to push my silicone longevity for a mere 100mhz increase per core, so I didn't run it very long at 5.1ghz but 100mhz per core isn't a game changer...for me. I'm still running 5.0ghz on all cores and keeping my voltage below 1.4 and temps very outside any dangerzone...This chip should last a long time for me...

I paired it with a Zotac RTX 2070 Super Mini (10M serial number with 2560 cuda cores) OC'd to 2010 Mhz on core and 15,600mhz (effective) OC on memory... gpu temps spike to 68c but average 65c as well. This is in my Silverstone RVZ03B-ARGB small form factor case as well!
 
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