I recently switched to the 10850K from a 5800X, despite Intels massive power draw vs the Ryzen CPU my temperatures are much lower on a 360mm aio I'm using atm and gaming performance is basically on pair at 1440p plus I get extra 2 cores : -)
I would say that
because of Intel's massive power draw vs. AMD you're getting lower temperatures, not despite them.
I guess everyone already forgot and has forgiven Intel for all their anticonsumer and anti-competitive crap they have pulled on us and the industry.
There is no hope.
I can guarantee you that I'm not one of those people. I may never buy another Intel processor for as long as I live. I even stuck with my FX-8350 for five years and was fine with it despite Intel CPUs having better performance and power use the whole time. It's not like I suffered because my FX-8350 did all that I wanted it to and it was fine.
Meanwhile, people were blowing their money on Intel CPUs because they all had this stupid idea that they were somehow professional gamers with high-refresh displays. The upgrades were a joke because they were just re-hashed Sandy Bridge (and possibly still are) CPUs. Meanwhile, nobody really knows just how far behind we are in computer tech because of Intel's sandbagging but I guess that it's at least five years.
Intel can go pound salt as far as I'm concerned.
That hardware addiction must be fed. It's a biotch when you are jonesing for a hardware fix.
I guess that this just shows that people will do anything for their hardware fix.
The most dangerous thing about that is it shows just how little self-control people have and how much that they're willing to buy into a corporations lies and marketing just to get a few more fps that they'd never notice anyway.
I cannot say I agree. Who is now commanding the price premiums for their CPUs? From my viewpoint, its AMD especially with Threadripper CPUs. I doubt parity will ever be reached. Sooner or later, Intel will come out, once again, with a CPU superior to AMDs, and Intel will command the premium price. However, I think it is great to have them duking it out as it keeps the market fresh.
You're comparing apples and oranges when you talk about Threadripper. That's a pro-level workstation-class CPU that, when used as intended, pays for itself rather rapidly. Pro-level parts
always have a price premium in
any industry because they're designed to
make you money in the professional arena. Threadripper is essentially unopposed because Intel has
nothing to compete with it. Intel has only two lines, Core and Xeon while AMD has three lines, Ryzen, Threadripper and EPYC.
Intel Core -> AMD Ryzen
No Intel Product -> AMD Threadripper
Intel Xeon -> AMD EPYC
If you want to talk about unwarranted price premiums, you should talk about just how overpriced and underpowered the Intel Xeon line is when compared to AMD's EPYC line. The 26-core Intel Xeon 8170 with 6-channels of DDR4 and 48 PCI-Express lanes costs $12,863 while the 64-core AMD EPYC 7742 with 8 channels of DDR4 and 128 PCI-Express lanes costs only $7,445. Even if I didn't already hate the Intel Corporation, I know that
for sure I wouldn't be buying the Xeon over the EPYC,
even if the prices were the same. Which one would you choose?
Back in September of 2019, TweakTown did a test comparing
two EPYC 7742 CPUs costing $13,900 and
four Intel Xeon 8180M CPUs costing $52,000.
2 x AMD EPYC 7742 for $13,900 annihilate $52,000 worth of Intel Xeons
Now, is there a reason on Earth (other than abject stupidity) than
anyone would choose those Xeons over those EPYCs? I can't think of a single one because the price disparity is so massive that you could probably buy an dual-socket SP3 (EPYC) motherboard, max out the RAM and it would
still cost less than the two Xeons alone.
So at the pro-level (which outsells consumer-grade by a significant margin), Intel's CPUs are currently inferior but they're
still trying to command a premium for them. I don't know if that's arrogance about themselves, a complete denial of reality or cynicism about their customers' intellectual capacities.
