Intel reveals the games that don't work with Alder Lake -- and a temporary fix

maroon1

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:facepalm: sIntel hubris - still?? IMO, this sounds about right for sIntel. The e-cores (purely there just to play the core count game because P-cores, instead of E-cores, would turn their cpus into electric stoves) comes back to bite them in the E-A$$. šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£

Maybe, just maybe, they will learn some day that the shell game scam is not working for them.

Except that those E cores are actually improving performance..... And we already see how powerful Alder Lake in multi-threading and massive upgrade over previous CPU, and same time it has best single-thread performance

Play core count ??? I'm pretty sure we decide how good the CPU based on benchmarks and actual performance, not based on core count...

DRM issue it not big problem as some people make it and it not intel fault

1- All future games will not have issue because developers will not make DRM that does not work on hybrid CPU

2- Many of current games will likely get patched (specially big titles like Assassin's Creed)

3- You can still use Temporary fix (disabling E cores) if you want to play these outdated games with DRM or use cracked version... After you finish playing the outdated game then you can enable the E cores again..... Most of the games in list are games that I never played and I will not play

4- Like or not, Hybrid cores are the future... ARM started it, intel have it now, and AMD in the future
 
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BSim500

Posts: 919   +2,170
Christ all this arguing over "workarounds". Just solve the real problem at the core by removing the damn DRM already and dump Denuvo in the trash where it belongs. Witcher 3 didn't use or need any and sold +50m copies, many of them on DRM-Free GOG...
 

kiwigraeme

Posts: 1,300   +951
Christ all this arguing over "workarounds". Just solve the real problem at the core by removing the damn DRM already and dump Denuvo in the trash where it belongs. Witcher 3 didn't use or need any and sold +50m copies, many of them on DRM-Free GOG...

At least remove it down the line - when the sales start hitting .
The big sales are in the first month or so anyway .

many of these games lisited can be picked up for a $3 or so
 

quadibloc

Posts: 375   +250
Hybrid cores are an important new feature that saves energy, so I can't blame Intel for finding it important to introduce that feature. And they may not have been able to anticipate how every piece of software would react to it.
If they've already got a feature which disables the E-cores for some programs, though, then why isn't this feature being used to disable them for programs that would like to make use of AVX-512? That's the big question for me, since I feel that AVX-512 is important too, given that it can almost double floating-point performance.
And how does the hardware or the BIOS tell when a "legacy game" is running anyways?
 

poohbear

Posts: 711   +633
Hybrid cores suck. This trick by Intel is very problematic. I want full real cores only.
Well they say the E cores are the performance equivalent of a 10th gen Skylake, which is pretty damn impressive. My 4790k is REALLY starting to feel long in the tooth now!
 

Mr Majestyk

Posts: 1,441   +1,344
Early adopter issues, too bad so sad. Either wait a few months before buying or stop b!tching. Better yet wait for Raptor Lake when all this cr@p will be sorted and you'll be able to buy DDR5 that is actually performs well and doesn't cost a bomb. I'm all in on AMD but Intel has done a great job with AL Don't worry Zen 4 has some big surprises and in bigger news Zen 5 is going Big.little and the little cores will be Zen4D cores and should easily beat out Gracemont's successor in Meteor Lake.
 

wiyosaya

Posts: 8,241   +7,585
Except that those E cores are actually improving performance..... And we already see how powerful Alder Lake in multi-threading and massive upgrade over previous CPU, and same time it has best single-thread performance
If that is what you call putting Lipstick on a Pig, (or perhaps I should say "pig roaster" since the chips are power hogs) I'm OK with that. Or should we just call this "glue"? It seems like all sIntel can do these days is play the shell game because AMD gave them a black eye.
Play core count ??? I'm pretty sure we decide how good the CPU based on benchmarks and actual performance, not based on core count...
I don't think that the "knowledgeable about computers" market is as large as "not-so-knowledgeable about computers" market is, and that market is far less likely, as I see it, to be able to sort out what the important specs are.
DRM issue it not big problem as some people make it and it not intel fault
If it is not their fault, then how come it is sIntel that is releasing a fix for it?
4- Like or not, Hybrid cores are the future... ARM started it, intel have it now, and AMD in the future
Not according to this article at Tom's. According to the article, they have been studying it for 15-years and have no plans to introduce hybrid cores. In searching for articles confirming that AMD is releasing hybrid cores, it all appears to be hearsay with nothing directly from someone who has the absolute say-so at AMD.
 

wujj123456

Posts: 79   +49
It's rather screwed up so many big titles aren't ready, but at least, scroll lock might be finally useful once again...