Internet Defense League seeks to protect online freedom

By Jos ยท 9 replies
May 28, 2012
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  1. A group of online activists, headed by Tiffiniy Cheng of Fight for the Future and Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian, have formed the Internet Defense League to warn web users of...

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  2. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,270   +91

    What about you TechSpot? :trollface:


    I wish embedded images (.jpeg, .gif, etc.) could be seen from the comment section, not only the forum, like on The Verge. Make it happen please? :)

    3DCGMODELER TS Enthusiast Posts: 307   +18

    ditto + 1
  4. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    Now lets just hope that this group doesnt become a giant internet bully. Useing their membership lists to get what they want. I do like the idea of a watchgroup, but dont like the idea that they may become just another part of the giant monster that censoring has become. I point to groups like MADD ect that started out with the best of intentions.
    I see this as a good starting point, but I dont want to see this group ending up as some new age internet terrorist. Threatening the internet with mass blackouts just to get their way.
  5. "freedom" = porn / digital theft / piracy etc.
  6. "Geeks who couldn't be real super heroes vow to protect the Internet instead!" Puhleez..."activists" is all you needed to know.
  7. porn, piracy......... Oh please, grow up - porn has been around for ages, theft too...

    It's will always be there and no law or legislation will ever stop it - so accept it and deal with it, don't try and stop it because you're only wasting your time.
  8. Guest on May 28, 2012 6:06 PM: That's what YOU think freedom is, based on your own behaviour, right?
  9. Lurker101

    Lurker101 TS Evangelist Posts: 820   +345

    "freedom" = porn

    Sounds like something worth fight for, to me.
  10. Marnomancer

    Marnomancer TS Booster Posts: 723   +51

    Since our beloved Captain Cranky is apparently on vacation, I'll temporarily play host to your favourite show,
    Why Is This Post Wrong
    Let's begin with our favourite - The Guest Posts!

    Dear Guest, your meaning of freedom is wrong by definition. Freedom, according to the Atlantic Charter, covers freedom of expression, travel, residence, culture, education and profession. In the above mentioned context, this refers to freedom of expression on the internet. The passing of certain bills would not cut down on piracy as intended, but end up as a censorship tool in the hands of political powers. The group in question intends to prevent this from happening, as this would lead to activists (which includes whistle-blowers and watch dogs) being "quietened" and being charged with sexual assault, theft, murder, and all other conceivable and inconceivable means.
    1) Porn: Apparently in your view this means freedom of pleasure or entertainment. Other than Anonymous and general perverts., I don't see any true (and sane) person loving porn.
    2) Digital theft: This one probably freedom of action. The ones who are believed to be behind it ("hackers") absolutely don't need to do this. They can make their own stuff. And that more-than-often outperforms what corporations can make. Needless to say, the economic reports don't report developers dieing hungry. The sales usually exceed the losses. In the UK in 2011, the record sales in shops was 12 billion, and and the losses through torrents, file-sharing sites, etc, many times less.
    3) Piracy: Maybe freedom of possession in your vocabulary. As I mentioned above, developers dieing hungry. In case you want to know what exactly they think of piracy, see here.
    Just because you may do the aforementioned, doesn't mean everyone does.​

    From what I can tell, the poster you are addressing was saying that "hackers" (activists and geeks on the "right" side) are only intent on stopping the bill because they love porn and want free stuff eternally. That is absolutely not what the politicians are wanting to stop. TBH, they're not even intrigued in doing it, because there is no guarantee that they themselves don't love porn. Curtailing internet freedom and censoring anything that embarrasses them by exposing their crimes is what the laws are intended for, not stopping porn and intellectual property right infringements.

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