iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max launch with A19 Pro chip, 8K cameras, and up to 2TB storage

[ChrisH1]

Reading between the camera lines, there is good news in that the telephoto lens is 48 megapixels, which means its 4x optical equivalent of about a 100mm lens is as good as the main camera. It's less than the 16 pro max, which has 5x, but at 12mp. But on the plus side, at the same megapixel resolution you can zoom the telephoto out to 8x 200mm and get the same resolution as the 16 pro max at 5x (using the middle 12 megapixels). But those pixels will be smaller. Overall, an improvement but not as massive as advertised imo.

The camera will still have 'jumpy' resolution. The main camera has 48 megapixels, but handles all zooming out to 4x. If you zoom out to 2x, you're using the middle 12mp and 'wasting' 12. Zoom out to 3x and you're using 5.3mp, and just before 4x you're only getting 3mp. Then at 4x it will jump back up to 48mp!

So if you want to zoom out to say 3.5x and you're going to want to use the image on a big screen, you're much better off to use 4x.

That said, I believe there's some 'clever' software miracles happening in there, where it can blend images from the various cameras to get better resolution in the central image.

 

[Burty117]

I make Youtube videos for extra money and 1099 tax filing as a "journalist".

Okay, so why do you need more than 1TB? Entire movies were made using iPhones and I don't remember seeing complaints from movie studio's that iPhone's didn't have enough space on them.

 

[HardReset]

Is touch better than physical on a phone in absolutely every way? No. It is better for the majority of uses? Yes.

Which is why touch is the market leader on phones.

Again you are wrong. Major phone manufacturers experimented touch screen phones and all considered physical keyboards better. They had billions of RD budget and years of experience with phones. How about you?

Pretty typical on internet that many years of experience and billions RD budget means nothing because some guy on internet just "knows" better.

Try to understand this again: If physical KBs were so much better on a phone, then many Android phones would use them because they are absent from Apple phones and would be a great distinguishing feature. But physical KBs are not better so 99+% of Android phones include touch KBs, apparently even with the risk of Apple litigation.

I already proved you wrong. Samsung did not want to distinguish from Apple but mimic Apple so much that even court agreed that. Also rich player like Microsoft didn't want to distinguish from Apple or Android either. That means this whole "Android want to distinguish from Apple" is total BS.

LOL that makes no sense. If physical KB was better, even for ~20% of users, then some manufacturers would make tons of money on selling phones with them. But they don't. Apple is irrelevant for that argument, yet you can't help bringing them up.

And some companies do. But again, if availability is nearly zero, then also sales are. There are many products that would surely sell well but for some reason manufacturers just decide not to offer them. Just because they can.

That looks like a reasonable answer to the question of demand: 7,000 people want a physical KB on a phone.

On crowd funding campaign. Not on retail store. Big difference, eh? Again, there is so much demand on PKB phones that mass producing them seems to be profitable even with low price like that.

How many Apple products have succeeded on crowd funding campaigns?

 

[Lew Zealand]

Again you are wrong. Major phone manufacturers experimented touch screen phones and all considered physical keyboards better. They had billions of RD budget and years of experience with phones. How about you?

That's a nice story but where are these major manufacturers and their physical KB phones? Where are the people clamoring for this superior phone experience? Where is the money they're raking in from this amazing tech?

Pretty typical on internet that many years of experience and billions RD budget means nothing because some guy on internet just "knows" better.

I already proved you wrong. Samsung did not want to distinguish from Apple but mimic Apple so much that even court agreed that. Also rich player like Microsoft didn't want to distinguish from Apple or Android either. That means this whole "Android want to distinguish from Apple" is total BS.

LOL you proved nothing. You make claims, tell stories and provide no evidence.

And some companies do. But again, if availability is nearly zero, then also sales are. There are many products that would surely sell well but for some reason manufacturers just decide not to offer them. Just because they can.

On crowd funding campaign. Not on retail store. Big difference, eh? Again, there is so much demand on PKB phones that mass producing them seems to be profitable even with low price like that.

How many Apple products have succeeded on crowd funding campaigns?

Why would Apple use crowdfunding when they are a successful company? Should they have crowdfunded their failures like the Cube? No, they just absorb the cost and drop the crap product to make money on other products that people buy. Crowdfunding is for people with no money and untested ideas who are looking for small VC.

I do like your stories, though.