IQ Test
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SNGX1275
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Well I think I tend to study the best under stress, not normal stress, stress that I know I have to do it. I do agree with DA on the mid stress = best performance, I've seen it in real life and in text books just this summer semister in my management classes.
Crybabytek, that 192, I am a bit skeptical about that, I mean thats uber-1337 you probably wouldn't be as "laid back" posting here if you had that high of one. Take the emode one and see how you do, we have apparently established that that one scores a bit high.
Crybabytek - I am also abit skeptical on your 140 for the average college grad, maybe if you purely look at population percentages of college grads MAYBE, but real life expierence from a darn good undergrad engineering school I know very few who I could honestly say have an IQ that high, I'd guess most range in the 120s.
Crybabytek, that 192, I am a bit skeptical about that, I mean thats uber-1337 you probably wouldn't be as "laid back" posting here if you had that high of one. Take the emode one and see how you do, we have apparently established that that one scores a bit high.
Crybabytek - I am also abit skeptical on your 140 for the average college grad, maybe if you purely look at population percentages of college grads MAYBE, but real life expierence from a darn good undergrad engineering school I know very few who I could honestly say have an IQ that high, I'd guess most range in the 120s.
Phantasm66
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Its sometimes, when I am under the most stress, and my back is against the wall, that I am my most brilliant....
....Or most dangerous....
SNGX1275
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yeh thats what I said, I simply cannot modivate myself to study for a test if I know I have time to delay, even in graduate school. But I bet I learn more in those hours before the test that I study than most of the regular students do in their hours studying.
People are different, does it make one "smarter" than another, not necessarly, people just adapt to what works best for them.
Mictlantecuhtli
Posts: 4,049 +13
My IQ is over ten 
MrGaribaldi
Posts: 2,488 +1
Stress is both a blessing and a curse...
Some of my best work has been done around 4 am in the morning when the project has to be deliviered by 8 am... But then again, some of my worst work has been around 4 am when the project has to be delivered by 8 am...
For me it has everything to do with motivation... Ie. when I wrote a short paper on why give away free heroin to the most serious addicts (please, if you want to discuss that, do it in a new thread), I got excellent feedback from those who read it... It was written in one night, though I'd researched it for about a week beforehand, and I was really motivated...
Though another paper written in one night (researched for 3 weeks) about how different philosophers through time has looked upon a persons soul, it became quite thin... I wasn't really too motivated, as the research wasn't easy (hard to find anything about that topic when you're an undergrad....), and I felt the problem was too narrow...
And I couldn't expand it, since I had (stupid me) waited until the last night to write it... (To my own defense, I had written 2 other papers the same week which were quite good)
My point is that unless you're motivated, stress is (at least for me) the biggest enemy... I postpone the project as long as I can, in hopes of finding some aspect/view that will give me the needed motivation, but when that doesn't appear, I find myself doing it the last night...
The papers then usually contains quite a lot of "fill words", and I work the entire night without "finding my way"...
Thus I've learnt that things I'm not motivated to do, I start doing as soons as I can, but things I'm really interested in, I can spend more time in research...
It doesn't allways work, but has improved the average quality of my papers...
Over to "you can be anything that you want"...
I too has gotten that info, and not only from my parents, but teachers, study advisers etc.... And yes, it can be a curse... But it depends on how one looks upon it...
The pessimistic way is thinking that whatever you choose to study/do, you have to be good at it... Thus you're under a lot of pressure, might not be motivated, and drop out...
The optimistic way of looking at it, is that you can try several different things, and then take the way that suits you the most... "Think outside the box" as one adviser told me...
That you have the possibility to do what you want to do,is good as long as you don't make it into an expectation to do it extremely good...
This. again, depends a lot on how friends and family understand/mean "you can be anything you want to be"...
For a parent, it is better to say "Whatever you choose to do, we will stand behind you", as that is a much more positiv way of saying it ..
For friends, it all depends on how the person says it to them... If you say "I'm so good I can be anything I want", then you've got the pressure coming, but if you say something along the lines of "The adviser told me I had a lot of potential, but we couldn't quite figure out what classes/whatever was right for me, so I'll just have to look around" there shouldn't be much (if any) pressure...
My point here is that if you've got the potentail, it's all about how you use it, and how you let others percieve it...
Lastly, EQ...
How do you define EQ?
Is it how well you get along with others? How well you can tell if someone of the opposite (or same if that's what you fancy) is attracted to you?
Does it say anything about how good you are to work as a team, instead of alone?
And how do you meassure it?
The reason I ask these Q's are that whereas I like the idea of EQ, I have a trouble with how you quantify it...
And IQ test will tell you how good you are at solving certain tests, and to a certain extent how likely you are to learn certain things better than others...
But an EQ test is based on things that imo isn't quantifiable... Ok, so I get along easily with some people, that doesn't mean I'll get a long just as easy with others... It depends on the chemistry (let's call it chemistry, though afaik it hasn't been proven) between the you and the other people... And so if you've got good chemistry with some, that doesn't mean you'll have good chemistry with everyone...
My point is that's it's a good idea, but quite useless...
You can't test it with a paper, so it'll have to be a practical test... And you can't test with people the person knows, as that'll offsett the scales.. But testing with people the person have never met might also throw the scales... There is simply too many variables, that the answer will be extremly thin at best and you might end up changing how the person behaves, because of the test, at worst...
I hope this made some sense...
Some of my best work has been done around 4 am in the morning when the project has to be deliviered by 8 am... But then again, some of my worst work has been around 4 am when the project has to be delivered by 8 am...
For me it has everything to do with motivation... Ie. when I wrote a short paper on why give away free heroin to the most serious addicts (please, if you want to discuss that, do it in a new thread), I got excellent feedback from those who read it... It was written in one night, though I'd researched it for about a week beforehand, and I was really motivated...
Though another paper written in one night (researched for 3 weeks) about how different philosophers through time has looked upon a persons soul, it became quite thin... I wasn't really too motivated, as the research wasn't easy (hard to find anything about that topic when you're an undergrad....), and I felt the problem was too narrow...
And I couldn't expand it, since I had (stupid me) waited until the last night to write it... (To my own defense, I had written 2 other papers the same week which were quite good)
My point is that unless you're motivated, stress is (at least for me) the biggest enemy... I postpone the project as long as I can, in hopes of finding some aspect/view that will give me the needed motivation, but when that doesn't appear, I find myself doing it the last night...
The papers then usually contains quite a lot of "fill words", and I work the entire night without "finding my way"...
Thus I've learnt that things I'm not motivated to do, I start doing as soons as I can, but things I'm really interested in, I can spend more time in research...
It doesn't allways work, but has improved the average quality of my papers...
Over to "you can be anything that you want"...
I too has gotten that info, and not only from my parents, but teachers, study advisers etc.... And yes, it can be a curse... But it depends on how one looks upon it...
The pessimistic way is thinking that whatever you choose to study/do, you have to be good at it... Thus you're under a lot of pressure, might not be motivated, and drop out...
The optimistic way of looking at it, is that you can try several different things, and then take the way that suits you the most... "Think outside the box" as one adviser told me...
That you have the possibility to do what you want to do,is good as long as you don't make it into an expectation to do it extremely good...
This. again, depends a lot on how friends and family understand/mean "you can be anything you want to be"...
For a parent, it is better to say "Whatever you choose to do, we will stand behind you", as that is a much more positiv way of saying it ..
For friends, it all depends on how the person says it to them... If you say "I'm so good I can be anything I want", then you've got the pressure coming, but if you say something along the lines of "The adviser told me I had a lot of potential, but we couldn't quite figure out what classes/whatever was right for me, so I'll just have to look around" there shouldn't be much (if any) pressure...
My point here is that if you've got the potentail, it's all about how you use it, and how you let others percieve it...
Lastly, EQ...
How do you define EQ?
Is it how well you get along with others? How well you can tell if someone of the opposite (or same if that's what you fancy) is attracted to you?
Does it say anything about how good you are to work as a team, instead of alone?
And how do you meassure it?
The reason I ask these Q's are that whereas I like the idea of EQ, I have a trouble with how you quantify it...
And IQ test will tell you how good you are at solving certain tests, and to a certain extent how likely you are to learn certain things better than others...
But an EQ test is based on things that imo isn't quantifiable... Ok, so I get along easily with some people, that doesn't mean I'll get a long just as easy with others... It depends on the chemistry (let's call it chemistry, though afaik it hasn't been proven) between the you and the other people... And so if you've got good chemistry with some, that doesn't mean you'll have good chemistry with everyone...
My point is that's it's a good idea, but quite useless...
You can't test it with a paper, so it'll have to be a practical test... And you can't test with people the person knows, as that'll offsett the scales.. But testing with people the person have never met might also throw the scales... There is simply too many variables, that the answer will be extremly thin at best and you might end up changing how the person behaves, because of the test, at worst...
I hope this made some sense...
Nic
Posts: 1,519 +1
Update: I didn't actually say anything about stress in my post. In fact, what I said was that 'pressure' is what can lead to failure. Pressure is 'bad stress', as opposed to 'good stress', which is something that gives us the drive to succeed. It seems someone misunderstood my original message, and confused 'stress' with 'pressure'. They are not the same.
MrGaribaldi
Posts: 2,488 +1
I read quite a lot about EQ several years ago (when it was supposed to be the end to IQ tests), and from what I read then, it was supposed to tell how well you'd get along with others/work with others & motivation etc.
So that's why I asked the questions about EQ that I did... If you're really going to try to quantify it, how would you go about it?
If someone came up to me and said they had an EQ over 100, I'd most likely go "how nice for you", since it doesn't tell me anything....
Thus I don't really see how EQ will be tested/used, as, imo, there are way too many variables we know nothing about, that might have radical changes from one person to the next...
SNGX1275
Posts: 10,615 +467
agreed mr g
also its difficult (possible but hard) to quantify "lying" on tests like that, I mean you get something like "I often get frusterated at whatever" well quantify "often".
Eh, just tried to come up with a good example but its 4:40 am here and I'm too drunk to think of anything that intellegent.
also its difficult (possible but hard) to quantify "lying" on tests like that, I mean you get something like "I often get frusterated at whatever" well quantify "often".
Eh, just tried to come up with a good example but its 4:40 am here and I'm too drunk to think of anything that intellegent.
somekid007
Posts: 270 +0
i got 135
is 135 good? im 14 goin into grade 10
is 135 good? im 14 goin into grade 10
MrGaribaldi
Posts: 2,488 +1
Hehe... Yeah, I see what you mean...
Like, "Do you get along with other people? Answers:
1. Very Easily, 2. Easily. 3. OK, 4. Not so easily 5. Not at all"...
How would anyone check if you chose correctly between 1 and 2? Or 1 and 3 for that matter...
You could always include some "filter" that calculates the cheating, but then you'd be penalised if you really did answer truthfully...
Originally posted by XtR-X
I don't want to brag but I've just got to say that---
I hadn't eaten in 3 days when I took the test. If I would have eaten something I'm positive I would have made it even higher. About 1 hour ago I just finished a footlong from Subway.
I don't want to say much more, I don't like to brag, just thought I should add that.
Sorry to say but most people I know that I would consider to be intelligent remember to eat daily for survival purposes
ptitterington
Posts: 253 +0
129 Peter, you are a Facts Curator.
Whats one of those then?
Ill make the kids do it now lol
:grinthumb
Whats one of those then?
Ill make the kids do it now lol
:grinthumb
poertner_1274
Posts: 3,874 +3
/me is confused on all of JSR's one line posts. Please post things that are worth while for our readers, not to amuse yourself. Simply because your above post makes no sense.
JSR
Posts: 564 +0
it refers to
x......gobbling down a foot long, after, apparently three days of fasting, for some unfathomable reason, of which he asserts, that he would have done significantly better on his iq test had he consumed some life sustaining substance........which was promptly, a foot long...............of which he did not elaborate........so, yes. too amuse myself, and others, i hope, i was investigating the origin of his meal....... a foot long :grinthumb i know where you reside, poertner, so i don't expect you to ...."get".........everthing i amuse myself with....hehe................but, considering ......"where" .............you are from.......hehe..........i'll let it go this time
x......gobbling down a foot long, after, apparently three days of fasting, for some unfathomable reason, of which he asserts, that he would have done significantly better on his iq test had he consumed some life sustaining substance........which was promptly, a foot long...............of which he did not elaborate........so, yes. too amuse myself, and others, i hope, i was investigating the origin of his meal....... a foot long :grinthumb i know where you reside, poertner, so i don't expect you to ...."get".........everthing i amuse myself with....hehe................but, considering ......"where" .............you are from.......hehe..........i'll let it go this time
Phantasm66
Posts: 4,909 +8
Re: it refers to
Is understanding your posts part of the IQ test?
If so, maybe I have a lower IQ than I thought....
Originally posted by JSR
x......gobbling down a foot long, after, apparently three days of fasting, for some unfathomable reason, of which he asserts, that he would have done significantly better on his iq test had he consumed some life sustaining substance........which was promptly, a foot long...............of which he did not elaborate........so, yes. too amuse myself, and others, i hope, i was investigating the origin of his meal....... a foot long :grinthumb i know where you reside, poertner, so i don't expect you to ...."get".........everthing i amuse myself with....hehe................but, considering ......"where" .............you are from.......hehe..........i'll let it go this time
Is understanding your posts part of the IQ test?
If so, maybe I have a lower IQ than I thought....
JSR
Posts: 564 +0
yes, phant
as a bonafide euro....part of this message would be greek to you
but, to poertner, i am poking fun at the state, of america, in which he resides, missouri....here, in the states, we affectionately call missouri, ....."misery"..hehe, ........and therefore, i like to cast aspersions, in regards to poertner's state of mind, as being a direct result, of his place of origin :grinthumb
as a bonafide euro....part of this message would be greek to you
but, to poertner, i am poking fun at the state, of america, in which he resides, missouri....here, in the states, we affectionately call missouri, ....."misery"..hehe, ........and therefore, i like to cast aspersions, in regards to poertner's state of mind, as being a direct result, of his place of origin :grinthumb
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