Security John McAfee says he'll decrypt the San Bernardino iPhone for free with his team of super hackers

Squid Surprise

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I never said they are evil, I said they should abide by the laws of the country they do business in.
Again... perhaps you should do some reading... they ARE abiding by the laws of the land... they have until the 26th to comply I believe, so no laws have been broken...

And, again, it is a gigantic precedent being set if they simply comply without fighting - everyone's privacy is potentially at stake here... not to mention basic rights and freedoms...
 

captaincranky

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....[ ]....And, again, it is a gigantic precedent being set if they simply comply without fighting - everyone's privacy is potentially at stake here... not to mention basic rights and freedoms...
This is the same premise behind signing any treaty, "trust but verify".

With that said, I still think the basis of your, "don't open the phone no matter what" premise, is overly paranoid, and could, (God forbid), come back to haunt you someday.

First of all, if you want maximum privacy, a cell phone certainly isn't the way to get or expect it. Use a landline, or mail a letter.

With that said, you likely wouldn't raise an eyebrow, should either of our countries "fed" seek a court order to open a terrorist's mail, be he, (or she), living or dead.

There is an upside to revealing the contents of the phone, which is to obtain the person's contact information. Ostensibly, they could be part of a terrorist network, and are likely, still alive.

So, one phone, opened by one warrant, seems a reasonable outcome. As to insisting this one instant action will automatically lead to end end of all privacy as we know it is, (IMHO), a bit hysterical.

A lot is made of the fact the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world. "If you're such a 'free country' how come your jails are full"? The argument could easily be made that, "if you give people enough rope to hang themselves", you'll find trees and scaffolds full of them.

A lot of the push back against opening the phone, is, (IMHO), a publicity stunt. A way to pat customer's on the back while whispering gently in their ears saying, "see we're looking out for Y-O-U and your privacy". In the meantime they're harvesting every scrap of your personal information they possibly can, to further their own business interests. And this practice, you actually seem to embrace..:confused:
 
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Squid Surprise

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The difference is the method of obtaining the info... ANYONE can look at your mail - it might be illegal, but all I have to do is take the letter and read it...

And a land line is no more secure than a cell phone... if you're a conspiracy theorist, then you already know all land lines are tapped...

Part of Apple's "sales pitch" for the iPhone is that your data is secure... kind of hard to keep pitching that if you're willing to write a piece of software that can access any iPhone user's data...
 

Technician

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The difference is the method of obtaining the info... ANYONE can look at your mail - it might be illegal, but all I have to do is take the letter and read it...

And a land line is no more secure than a cell phone... if you're a conspiracy theorist, then you already know all land lines are tapped...

Part of Apple's "sales pitch" for the iPhone is that your data is secure... kind of hard to keep pitching that if you're willing to write a piece of software that can access any iPhone user's data...
Or if you admit that you already have that bit of tech hidden away.
 

Squid Surprise

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Now for those of you who are saying "this is just a one off, and doesn't set any precedents" can read this from the Wall Street Journal

http://www.wsj.com/articles/justice-department-seeks-to-force-apple-to-extract-data-from-about-12-other-iphones-1456202213

So apparently the Department of Justice wants Apple to unlock 12 more iPhones in criminal cases - none of which involve terrorism... You can see what a slippery slope it is if Apple caves into just 1...

Edit: Sorry, forgot you need to actually subscribe to the WSJ to read the full story... here's a similar story from Reuters.. .
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-encryption-idUSKCN0VW0BM
 
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This is quickly going south for Apple as they keep losing business and popular opinion swings with the Justice Department.
 

Squid Surprise

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This is quickly going south for Apple as they keep losing business and popular opinion swings with the Justice Department.
Really? According to what evidence do you base this on? Apple has a tremendous amount of support and there is no data to show that they've lost any sales...
 
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Say what you want about this man, I cannot get enough of his fantastic facial and head hair. Amazing, especially for a man his age.
 

Sigmund Derman

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Why hasn't his team of "prodigies" stop virus attacks in general. If I had "talents that defy human comprehension," I would put a halt to the sources of viruses. Then again, it may be like the battle with cancer. There exists a cure but if the cure is implemented, how do you make money?
If there were such a cure for cancer, it would be worth trillions. A general preventative treatment is virtually impossible with today's technology because it would entail 1) removing all existing cancer causing mutations from the three billion base pairs of DNA in every human genome. The know mutations are probably just a fraction of a percent of the total number 2) getting rid of all potentially cancer causing chemicals and other environmental factors that can damage DNA and other biological molecules 3) preventing all carcinogenic mutations that simply occur during the ordinary natural processes of cellular growth at difficult to predict times. The only way to get to that point is to write the ultimate computer program that would be so good that no further programming would be necessary. That one program, if implemented, could replace all IT professionals and eliminate the necessity of all further development. Such a program exists, of course, but it is kept under wraps because it would eliminate all IT jobs. However, I am certain such a program could find the cure you mention.
 

captaincranky

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F.W.I.W.,
"Apple's top lawyer stated his case against unlocking an iPhone used by the San Bernardino terrorist by telling Congress that a thief can steal more information from an iPhone than from breaking into a home. The FBI director also presented his case. Jeff Pegues has more".

If this is the case, and a phone has more personal data than a secure device such as a desktop NOT connected to the internet, isn't this more of an indictment of the average user's laziness, addiction, and stupidity, than a justification against unlocking the phone? Jus' sayin'.
 

captaincranky

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We have found for you a worthy running mate.
En-Oh! Gov. Chris Christy is the ideal running mate for Trump. You got your tall skinny one, and your short fat one. This pretty much seals the deal that they're the new, "Laurel & Hardy of politics". :eek:
 

Evolusi

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McAfee later retracted his offer when he was unable to assemble, Angelina Jolie, Jonny Lee Miller, Jesse Bradford, Matthew Lillard, Laurence Mason, and Renoly Santiago.
 

Technician

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McAfee later retracted his offer when he was unable to assemble, Angelina Jolie, Jonny Lee Miller, Jesse Bradford, Matthew Lillard, Laurence Mason, and Renoly Santiago.
No he didn't, but he did admit he lied about the technique he'd use to keep the actual method secret.