Jad Chaar
Posts: 6,481 +976
I dont mind it, but Google is just better. I notice that I get more accurate results via Google vs Bing. May have just been the certain search. I should use it more to more accurately compare it.
Microsoft CEO candidate Stephen Elop reportedly considering dropping Bing and selling Xbox business
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I dont mind it, but Google is just better. I notice that I get more accurate results via Google vs Bing. May have just been the certain search. I should use it more to more accurately compare it.
It actually isn't. The Xbox Division burns around 2 billion dollars a year. Hell, they spent 100 million on the Xbox One's controller R&D alone.
Well sorry for all you people who wake up every morning with a boner for your xbox. However, Microsoft never started as an xbox company and sure and the hell never survived as a company because of its xbox business. Did it ever occur to people that the reason Microsoft's os and services market has been on edge is because they have been spending valuable resources on things like bing and xbox? Like the other person who said this on here already, Microsoft is spreading its resources too thin. And yes bing is no google, but google started out as a search engine company and has had plenty of time to perfect it over the years. I'd say Microsoft has done pretty well for themselves considering that they havent had much time to work with bing. Minus infinite number of points for guest.
Railman
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If XBox is seen to be irrelevant to MS then surely Windows RT is several orders less relevant? Maybe MS like flogging dead horses.
By the way several persons have pointed out how big the corporate sector is to MS so why are they going out of their way to piss off enterprise with W8? I was talking with one of our IT experts who described W8 as horrendous.
By the way several persons have pointed out how big the corporate sector is to MS so why are they going out of their way to piss off enterprise with W8? I was talking with one of our IT experts who described W8 as horrendous.
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Getting rid of the bing services would be a big mistake. bing search, weather , news, etc services are some of the best services out there. but this is what Microsoft does, they come out with something, make it great, get you hooked on it and then cancel it, it's very frustrating. this new ceo that wants to get rid of the bing services, they can toss his ..s in the trash!!
captaincranky
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A while back, one of the big PC makers, (not sure if Dell, or HP), hired a CEO that decided they were no longer going to build PCs. That particular jack*** was gone in a matter of months.
Arguably, Steve Ballmer is all for this person as a replacement, since it might actually succeed at making him, (for once), look good.
I'm still "reeling", (pun intended), from the big "douches dancing on desks", Surface fiasco.
Good luck with that..
In any event, here we have another big shot, running his mouth about what M$ "should be", when all he knows is basically, what it seems he failed at before!
(*) Christmas is coming, and people will be giving and getting tons and tons of hardware, a huge percentage of which will have Win 8, pre-installed, and with no other choice in sight.
I'm sure M$ will distort this result, and claim all those X-Mas toys were sold BECAUSE of Windows 8, and not in SPITE of Windows 8.
With industrial intrigue & espionage being what is, I'm guessing any titan of a company such as M$,has to watch out for a "Trojan Horse", even to the extent it might be a new CEO.
Arguably, Steve Ballmer is all for this person as a replacement, since it might actually succeed at making him, (for once), look good.
OK, Surface lost about a half billion dollars on its first run. M$ has s*** for luck so far in everything they've tried in mobile, (Think "Zune"), and now they're going to make it a mobile operation? Not to mention the still piss poor adoption rate of Windows 8, despite the fact they're ramming it down people's throat's.(*)
I'm still "reeling", (pun intended), from the big "douches dancing on desks", Surface fiasco.
Good luck with that..
In any event, here we have another big shot, running his mouth about what M$ "should be", when all he knows is basically, what it seems he failed at before!
(*) Christmas is coming, and people will be giving and getting tons and tons of hardware, a huge percentage of which will have Win 8, pre-installed, and with no other choice in sight.
I'm sure M$ will distort this result, and claim all those X-Mas toys were sold BECAUSE of Windows 8, and not in SPITE of Windows 8.
With industrial intrigue & espionage being what is, I'm guessing any titan of a company such as M$,has to watch out for a "Trojan Horse", even to the extent it might be a new CEO.
learninmypc
Posts: 9,679 +724
I'll be so happy if bing gets dumped. Google is far superior in my opinion.(y) 
captaincranky
Posts: 19,684 +8,825
Then simply use Google and ignore Bing. Why should it have to be cancelled to make you happy?I'll be so happy if bing gets dumped. Google is far superior in my opinion.(y)
learninmypc
Posts: 9,679 +724
Thank you captaincranky
cliffordcooley
Posts: 13,141 +6,441
So everyone one here only wants Google? How the hell can you guys scream competition is good and then shout Bing needs to die? Google is the one I don't want any dealings with but that is what you guys want, I'm not gonna complain about its existence.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,684 +8,825
I think you missed an important point. Google is using, "Chrome" to validate their search engine, while M$ is using "Bing" to validate their browser.Thank you captaincranky
Of course, "Chrome" doubles as spyware, but that's another argument.
ehm no, actually the Xbox isn't a huge money maker for the company but a pain in the ***.
He was at MS before Nokia, and didn't seem to be "up to his eyeballs in mobile manufacturing". And after having had a look at his previous career to MS (including Adobe and Boston Chicken[which went bankrupt]) it doesn't suggest this was the case either.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,684 +8,825
So then, this might be an attempt at bankrupting a second company? If Ballmer couldn't bankrupt M$, I doubt anyone can....
I disagree. The future is definitely not Xbox. The future is still Computers only miniaturized. Today phones are computers but really compact and the smaller the technology the faster it becomes because you can stack up and up (Still think that is not the way to go but okay). Making everything smart small and cool looking is what currently seems to be the future. The Xbox and playstation and Wii(U) are currently THE entertainment systems but are infact regular computers designed into a small box. Valves steam machine prototype is currently proving that the Xbox one is just a computer in a box. So I really think that selling xbox is in fact a logical step for Microsoft because it is not in line with Microsofts goal. Microsoft always had a big problem and that was being part of everything. I think they should focus on a few things but I dont agree with Elop completely. Maybe I can't see the things he does but his ideas purely don't seem to work in my eyes...
I think he would be coming home to MS, perhaps it was a deliberate play taking on the role at Nokia to put them in a position to be bought by MS and CEO of MS being his reward.So then, this might be an attempt at bankrupting a second company? If Ballmer couldn't bankrupt M$, I doubt anyone can....
hopgop1
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In the Bing vs Google argument, remember that competition can help improve something, if for example Google hadn't had any competition from Bing would they have an "almost" flawless search engine? Also if Bing was dumped would Google still strive to improve and stay the best?
captaincranky
Posts: 19,684 +8,825
So what you're saying is, I had it right the first time, just in the wrong order?
tipstir
Posts: 2,873 +206
I say that I blame this guy to drop bing, since I don't use it. It's map system not bad they should merge some of bing map features with google map features. Bing is really not needed. Xbox everyone has that, I don't but everyone I know has it. Microsoft wanted programmers back in the early 2000 era to be called upon to develop a new line of games for new device this was the Xbox. I had turned that down. Pay was good for only 1 year of contract work. Must live in Washington State. This CEO better think again. I bet he uses Google daily.
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" It's a big paradox, and it may be that splitting or selling off the Xbox portion of the company would be easier than trying to figure out how to fold it into the grand scheme. Plus, selling it off while that portion of the business is doing well would mean a massive potential payday."
Unless of course the xbox continues to make them money in which case they could just decide to keep it along side their "grand UI" future plans anyways. It could just be one of the few things that simply doesnt get integrated with the rest of most of their products. As long as it makes money it could mean they will simply distance it from their plans rather than make it part of it... Gaming over here. Bsuniess/consumer products (windows, office, ect) over there.
Unless of course the xbox continues to make them money in which case they could just decide to keep it along side their "grand UI" future plans anyways. It could just be one of the few things that simply doesnt get integrated with the rest of most of their products. As long as it makes money it could mean they will simply distance it from their plans rather than make it part of it... Gaming over here. Bsuniess/consumer products (windows, office, ect) over there.
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