Microsoft killed cross-platform project because PC gamers wrecked console gamers

By Matthew ยท 114 replies
Jul 22, 2010
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  1. Richy2k9

    Richy2k9 TS Enthusiast Posts: 515

    hello ...

    I agree, the Keyboard & Mouse combo is just unbeatable for some kind of games, but the idea of cross-platform gaming is interesting, i really would want this to be implemented.

    I know we have keyboard & Mouse mappers for PS3, don't the Xbox have same ? Well you can't control what the users are using, so i guess would be good if they could cross-platform ONLY if some conditions/criteria are met.

    anyway, too bad, but here MS had good reasons.

    ... & the truth is when we are a gamer, we are not forced to be limited to ONLY 1 platform ;) ... I play on PC + PS3 (best of both world) ...

  2. It's about enjoying yourself after all.

    Mouse and keyboard may be more precise for certain shooters and the odd hard core RPG titles but that is basically it.

    The Xbox remote is a fine tool for games with mixed scenarios like Mass Effect and Bad Company 2.
  3. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,150   +916

    Just to say those are the worst examples i've ever seen, Mass effect was infinately easyer with a keyboard and mouse (trust me, i own both) and bad company 2 is a FPS which are ALWAYS better on PC which is the whole point of this article.
  4. HA! Like the bit about the test with lady rewards and the other with trek references. Good stuff.

    I have a mouse for my PS3 and it, in my opinion, certainly gives me a leg up compared to other newbies, but it isn't the same as on a computer. The few times I played Bad Company on it, from the first, I scored in the top half every time. Few seconds and thirds and even a couple firsts.

    Regardless, the mouse is converting the signal to controller inputs and even at highest sensitivity is not nearly as precise as computer and mouse. (Still have to "spin" with the anolog stick on the left dongle) PS3, Xbox and developers need to include true mouse controls and get some options on the market.

    I play with a nostromo controller and mouse at my desk. Kick back with feet up. Only problem is that monitor is not directly in front, slightly to the right, so I can get a kink in my neck on long sessions. I plan to get an articulating vesa mount to fix that.

    Still, I typically have one son on the xbox and another on the PS3 while we are all playing the same game. Would be nice to hook up with them occasionally as it seems games are the only thing besides football we have in common anymore...

    Plus, my quality time with the misses would be marginally extended if I could enjoy my games on the couch.
  5. isamuelson

    isamuelson TS Booster Posts: 100

    Mouse rocks, controllers suck!
  6. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 3,486   +45

    Where's the facebook link on this thing, I want to embarrass my friends that think they could "work," my mw2 pc gaming crew.
  7. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,352   +293

    I've actually gotten very used to my current gaming setup, which (for me) is completely superior to anything I could do on a console for FPS or MMOs. I've got a full Saitek gaming setup: mouse, gaming keyboard, and left hand command unit. That command unit is great, has an analog thumb joystick that I can program for movement, which makes the WASD hand strain thing disappear for long gaming sessions. And having a bazillion completely programmable buttons right at my fingertips helps as well, I can set up profiles for whatever game I'm playing - can't do THAT on a console.

    As for the comments about gaming on a TV... I have an HTPC that I built for my wife to use on our 42" HDTV in the living room, running at 1080p resolution. I recently threw a discrete video card that I had lying around in (GT240) and fired up Guild Wars, just to see how it looked. Now, sitting across the room on a couch and playing does have some perks, but honestly I was amazed at how lackluster the image was. It brought home tome what I've heard for quite a while: unless you have a ton of money sunk into the top of the line big screen TVs, you aren't going to match the crispness and response of even just a decent PC screen.
  8. Richy2k9

    Richy2k9 TS Enthusiast Posts: 515

    hello again,

    why do you people always turn all articles into fanboy war, if it's not about Xbox360 vs PS3, it's PC vs console, most of the time i LOL, but sometimes you really show an immature part of yourself that annoy me, for i've learnt to respect some of you. Do we get push into some hysteria when we see others trying to defend their system or bashing ours !!!?

    i'll try to be less fanboyish here:

    PC Side:

    - No console ever can beat the PC in terms of: Quality & Ease of USE, GFX far superior & i don't care of the price, if i want to play, i can afford, i'll buy & upgrade when needed!

    - You can play decently on a PC that's slightly more than any console & any PC will always be 'almost' backward compatible to some extent.

    - Mouse & Keyboard combination is the way to go for a lot of games, not all but really a lot!

    Console Side:

    - Not all games available on consoles are also on PC - exclusivity makes a difference, not that a PC can't play the same, maybe even better. I can imagine a better version of God of War 3 or Gears of War 2 on a PC, but the fact is the games belong to the developers & publishers & they release where they want & so having 'also' a console is a plus for any gamer, sorry .. any 'true' gamer out there!

    - Console remain same price & last at least 10 years, even if no big evolution in terms of quality, sometimes the PCs are built far too superior to the real requirements of any games. Don't forget that some great games like Tetris doesn't need big GFX cards to be fun.

    - Some games really are better with analog stick or gamepad, so we all get to win.

    Why don't we just play our games & stop the war .... & i repeat myself here, maybe a combo of PC + Xbox360 isn't the best for both share more than 80% games, a combo of PC + PS3 or WII is the best to have for any gamer, for then can play great games on great platforms, stick to exclusive & be happy!

    Anyway, do what you like, i'll go enjoy my Heavy Rain on PS3 & soon Diablo III on PC. Actually i prefer playing Diablo II on my PC, will also try City of Heroes i bought off steamy site & rise of argonauts i just got for Rs60 (1.80US$) ...
    Week-end here, so it will also means: Uncharted 2 MP, Burnout Paradise MP & maybe some Crash Commando ;) ...

    have a nice week-end too!

  9. 'No monitor can beat my 46in Sony TV. 23in vs 46in? '

    And yet The 23 inch will be equal or higher res. than the 46 inch.

  10. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,596   +257

    I wish to be able to play with a keyboard and mouse on my PS3 like I do on the PC.

    I have been playing MW2 on both for awhile and do so much better on PC, but with all the hackers, I hate playing on the PC.

    I'm torn between both. :(
  11. Relic

    Relic TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,379   +16

    Been reading comments here and elsewhere throughout the net and I'm sensing a lot of people missing a major point here. This is about how KB/M is more accurate then a controller and NOT that PC gamers are better then console gamers on an equal basis. If you are a competitive player on either platform you can easily adapt to the other system. Your twitch reflexes and understanding of shooters doesn't just disappear when switching and should give you a competitive edge until you learn the system better. If your a good shooter you'll likely be a good shooter on any system given the time to learn the controls. If anything this should encourage competitive and professional gamers to play on a PC due to its higher degree of accuracy and better hardware.
  12. Zilpha

    Zilpha TS Enthusiast Posts: 319

    The only thing I didn't really like about that blog post was how he kind of declared console gaming complete phail. It's been a very lucrative industry for decades now and I don't think that people are going to give up their recliners to mash at keys just yet.
  13. Microsoft could have turned this around to a money-making opportunity by relying on the weakness of the controller for this game and selling a mouse-and-keyboard pack for the xbox on the side.

  14. Perhaps the next gen of consoles or the next after that willl be powerful enough to run games at a solid 60+ fps and offer true digital M&K control as an option. At some point it seems inevitable that the line between consoles and PCs will blur until there is no more line and PCs is all that will remain.
  15. KG363

    KG363 TS Guru Posts: 515   +9

    Is gears of war a cross platform game? If so, I wanna buy it (assuming the service is still available for the existing games)
  16. Gears of War 1 is.
  17. Remember though that they even pitted crappy PC players against the best console players and the console players still got dusted.
  18. I'm a 30 something who in the last 20 years has only really played the battlefield series of games (about 6 years ago) and I'm only average at best. Now my son is getting older and has games like COD I try and play with him and just can not get to grips with the controller no matter how much I practise. My teen nephew is pretty damn good with a controller but still nothing like when he uses the PC. I didn't even realise there were people who really believed a controller was better for FPS style games.
  19. I've done that with Team Fortress 2. I use the xbox 360 controller for the right hand with all the special action keys mapped to each button and a wireless mouse for my right hand. The only problem, though, is that the 360 controller can sometimes be too bulky to grip for one hand.
  20. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,448   +145

    I wonder if they have autoaim helper on for the console gamers, it doesn't say in the article.
  21. grvalderrama

    grvalderrama TS Enthusiast Posts: 194

    There's no doubt about it, for FPS mouse and keyboard it's the best option.

    I have 2 xbox 360 controllers and they are very confortable, but are unaccurate. I'm playing Left 4 dead with them and I got used to it really fast, but I certainly don't get as many headshots as I used when I played it with my mouse and keyboard a year ago.

    Games like PES 2010, DMC 4, Dirt 2 are much better to be played with Xbox controller.
  22. Um ...the obvious question is...why don't they have a keyboard /mouse for the xbox360?
  23. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,448   +145

    Or why is the question actually "why don't you know about it?"


    it's just more fun use a keyboard and mouse than use the other controller
  25. I agree keyboard and mouse is the much better than the controller.

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