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Microsoft to Adobe: People not ready to give up on stand-alone software

By Dave LeClair ยท 31 replies
May 8, 2013
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  1. Adobe recently announced that it's no longer going to sell stand-alone versions of Creative Suite or its individual components, instead choosing to offer the software as part of cloud subscription packages only. Microsoft started offering something similar with Office 365,...

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  2. I don't want anything to do with subscription based software. I don't want a monthly bill for anything. Netflix is damn lucky I give them 6 bucks a month. I already have enough monthly bills to pay, I don't need one to edit pictures.

    3DCGMODELER TS Enthusiast Posts: 307   +18

    Ditto ditto
  4. MrBlkfx1

    MrBlkfx1 TS Evangelist Posts: 861   +203

    I may be one of the few people who like subscriptions lol. I definitely prefer it over a lump sum payment.
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  5. Sniped_Ash

    Sniped_Ash TS Maniac Posts: 253   +108

    If a company intends to upgrade their software after a certain number of years, subscriptions make sense. Paying a lump sum for multiple seats at once can be really tough and I'd rather do it Adobe's way than have to finance a large software upgrade. It's why I got our firm onto Autodesk's subscription plan during our last round of AutoCAD upgrades.

    Unfortunately for Adobe, we have CS5.5 and won't need to upgrade for a LONG time. So they can suck it.
    kajehart likes this.
  6. Darkshadoe

    Darkshadoe TS Guru Posts: 571   +113

    "Unfortunately for Adobe, we have CS5.5 and won't need to upgrade for a LONG time. So they can suck it."
    +50 Internets to you sir.

    I love how Microsoft knows whats best for me. First with Windows 8 now with subscription based software. Tell you what Microsoft, I'll use those only two brain cells still functioning to make my own decisions. I guess we consumers are a bunch of window licking knuckle draggers that really do not know how to operate with our computers and must rely on a company to instruct us.

    To borrow part of Sniped_Ash's response:

    Steve Ballmer, you can suck it also.
  7. johnehoffman

    johnehoffman TS Enthusiast Posts: 27   +35

    In the long run, subscription based software will likely lower expenses for users, just as the advent of suites like MS Office and Adobe CS did, because of the enormous savings to vendors:
    1. Having most of the software downloaded saves the costs of producing disks, boxes, etc., as well as shipping costs.
    2. Having most of the software downloaded directly from the publisher saves the costs of the retail markup

    Hopefully, competition will force those savings to be passed along to the users.
  8. Oh yes! I'm sure the entire intent behind releasing cloud based software is to lower the cost of their product to consumers. You are a genius sir.
  9. I can understand not liking subscriptions for certain types of products. For me, I would never subscribe to a movie service because I rarely watch movies and there's very few I really enjoy so I'd rather just pay a one time fee for a BluRay and rip it to my external hard drive. But for something like Office software where I use it nearly every single day, a subscription makes sense.

    Also, with Office it's a yearly or monthly and you can set it to renew automatic or manually so you don't even have to tend to paying the fee every year if you don't want to.

    The other great thing about the subscription model is that if you almost never use Office but all of a sudden you need the suite for a short period of time, you can just pay $10 and get full access to the Office suite for a month and have no big upfront costs or long term commitment.

    If you let your subscription end, the software just switches to read-only mode so even when you're not paying money, you can still read any kind of Office document without having to use 3rd-party solutions which may present compatibility problems.

    The only way that buying the standalone version makes sense is if you plan on using that version for like 10 years... (I'm sure someone will do the calculation to show me it's less years, lol).

    I just find it convenient to pay $100 a year knowing I will get all product updates/new versions, 20 GB additional SkyDrive storage, and 60 minutes of Skype world minutes every month, be able to install the suite to 5 different computers and be able to stream the Office suite to any computer over the Internet, and be able to manage all of it from the Office website.
  10. Just don't call it a subscription and they will never know. Just call it a license and charge them every year like Microsoft does for corporations. Although I hear the MS Office products will be subscription, at least for businesses, so MS can streamline their money making.

    Windows Blue was supposed to be a subscription, but MS figured out people would not upgrade from Windows 7 if they had to start paying $9.95 a month to use their computer.
  11. Instead use a suscription mode for software, a lot of People will search for alternative Open Source or Free sofware, not only home consumers, enterprises too.

    Really, Do you think Open Source software like OpenSuSE, LibreOffice, Scribus, Inkscape can't replace to Microsoft and Adobe with a suscription pay model of software ?

    No doubt , These are doing a good job.

    Thaks to all that do Open Source and Free Software.
  12. I think it's absolutely stupendous to pay for software. It ought to be free and open.

    When will the world realize this?

    One thing is paying for hardware, as it requires natural resources to produce.

    It also requires the right facilities.

    But software? Anyone with a laptop can create software. . .
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  13. kajehart

    kajehart TS Rookie

    I've been avoiding Adobe products anyway since they're system resource hogs. Adobe, like Apple, is too closed-source. I back open-source winners like Mozilla. If everybody else did, the world of software would be a better place!
  14. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,409   +3,422

    Thats exactly what I plan on doing with my copy of Windows 7, Office 2010, and Nero 10. I didn't buy them with intentions of replacing them in the next couple of years. I must admit, I'm not an Adobe customer but I have been looking at their software here recently. As a subscription based software, I will not be looking at Adobe any further. I don't even subscribe to computer protection, so why would I subscribe to other software?

    I buy produces with the intentions of being able to use them for a while. Anything I do on a PC is a hobby. I shouldn't have to maintain a monthly fee, to keep the ability to do hobbies 24/7.
  15. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,758   +2,429

    Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus:
  16. spectrenad

    spectrenad TS Enthusiast Posts: 98   +18

    It's Adobe who force it upon the consumers, not MS. Why all the hate?
  17. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,758   +2,429

    What's it to you?

    Maybe we should draw straws on any given day to decide which monopoly to resent. Pending your approval, of course.
    cliffordcooley likes this.
  18. Once a year, not monthly.
  19. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,409   +3,422

    That doesn't matter, it's still a subscription that will deactivate software at the end of its term.
  20. It goes to read-only mode, so you can still open and view any document. That's also why you can set it to renew automatically. And if you don't like charges being taken out automatically just set it to manual and I'm sure Office will warn you in advance that it is about to expire anyway.

    Lastly, they do offer the Office web apps for free, like Google Docs, so even if your actual suite expires you can still actually edit and use and whatnot, all of your documents.
  21. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,409   +3,422

    I will keep what I know is already paid for and doesn't have expiration dates. I see absolutely no reason why I should be forced into a subscription based library of software.

    Ohh, and doesn't require an on-line connection to operate.
  22. Well at least you won't be alone in that boat. Just like the people who refuse to move on from landline phones. Who needs those damned smartphones anyway!
  23. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,758   +2,429

    I refuse to move on from my landline..
    Only people who imagine they do. Well them, and the nerd/ delinquents who frequent tech web sites so they can argue, "my phone is better than your phone".

    I don't really need a ":smart phone app", to tell me when I should take a crap, let alone subscribe to one. And judging by the junk apps I see being pushed on TV, people seem to need an app for everything else. So that could be last last frontier in computing, and app that monitors toxins in your blood so you'll know when to take a break from downloading pirated movies, and hit the john....:oops:

    I do so hope they have a contest to name it.. Here's my entry, "Brave New Flush".
  24. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,409   +3,422

    You speak as if those are the only phones available. I have a Cell Phone that is not a smartphone. Beside from my perspective, it's more like who needs a damned phone period. But then the topic of phones here is irrelevant, as they require a service to operate. Naturally if you can operate software without a service, there really is no need in service based subscription. Therefore your attempt at a humorous analogy is flawed.
  25. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,758   +2,429

    Ah, you're a man after my own heart. Personally, I have vowed never even call 911 again, unless my own life is in danger. I figure the cops will find the bodies in the street eventually, no sense in making their job easier.

    (It took at last 3 people to call and close to an hour, before they found the last one).:eek:

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