Microsoft won't let you Google search from Cortana any more

[Skidmarksdeluxe]

You don't know anyone that uses Siri?

I don't know anybody who uses Apple products. They have their following but they're not that big over here. It's all Android.

 

[trgz]

Another reason not to use 10

Hmm, I use Windows 10 but have never used Edge or Cortana, and rarely even use IE or Chrome - good old Firefox suits me fine.

 

[EClyde]

Hmm, I use Windows 10 but have never used Edge or Cortana, and rarely even use IE or Chrome - good old Firefox suits me fine.

hmmmmm

 

[Ronald G]

I have Windows 10 but use both Firefox and Thunderbird, so it looks and feels a lot like W7. I use Google for my searching and have a separate page that I call up with my speed dial. With 24 gig of ram and a 128 gig SSD supplementing my 2 Tera hard drive, it is the best computer that I have ever owned or used. W10 seems to be OK as long and the Government doesn't allow Microsoft to do some of the things that they would like to do. I was using a Lenovo W7 i7 processor and 8 gig of ram just a few months ago, and lately do not use it much at all. My present computer cost $1000 at Costco, but that will give me many years of service in the years ahead hopefully.

 

[Greg J.]

I wanted to use Microsoft Edge. It looked good. I tried to use it. It lacked too many features, though. One of the reasons I had to quit using Chrome as my primary browser. I guess Firefox + Add-Ons has spoiled me.

Cortana? What's that? Now that I can type questions at the Google prompt and get the correct search done, I don't see why I should try anything else. Well, I don't want to appear biased. I should mention Google's failing that every year or so I have to go to the second page of Google hits to find what I want.

 

[andrewyoung]

Also not to mention noone uses it, I Personally used the software that disables cortana, windows search, Bing,
and windows spying.

same here.

 

[Wendig0]

Meh, no f%&@$ given. Windows 10 is more like a Trojan than it is an OS anyway. M$ can keep Cortana and Windows 10 as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Dustyn]

What's a Cortana and who the hell uses it anyways?
I have Windows 10 Professional and have found it less than appealing to use.
I'd rather just open IE11 that Microsoft casually hid from users, change my default search engine to Google and I'm done.

 

[Dustyn]

What's a Cortana and who the hell uses it anyways?
I have Windows 10 Professional and have found it less than appealing to use.
I'd rather just open IE11 that Microsoft casually hid from users, change my default search engine to Google and I'm done.

EDIT: "Cortana is LESS than appealing", not Windows 10.

 

[Randall Holmes]

I disabled Cortana forever as soon as I discovered this, and posted on social media that I was doing it, and why. I will never turn it on again, unless they restore my ability to use the browser and search engine of my choice.

 

[DelJo63]

What some people will do to get others to use their ^$&# products :sigh:

 

[North]

"Forced" beta testing by 300 million users who never even wanted their ****.
Forced used of their poop search engine .

"Here is free poop , because our last 2 models were lemons"

My model was old enough to NOT me a lemon, and still the RAM this beta test down my throat.

I have disabled ALL of microsoft's data collection, as well as Cortana, They can shove their proprietary poop back where it came from. Right back down their Cake hole.

 

[Larryx22yz]

Micro$lop just sent me an email telling me that they are cutting my free cloud storage from 15GB to 5 below is partial text:

"We want to let you know about some upcoming changes to OneDrive. On July 27, 2016, the amount of storage that comes with OneDrive will change from 15 GB to 5 GB. We are also discontinuing the 15 GB camera roll bonus. You can learn more at our FAQ."

Yet no one seems to talk about this. It seems to me that M$ is trying to force people into paying for storage.

Anyone else get such an email???

 

[captaincranky]

If the picture in the article is anywhere near accurate, "Cortana" looks a bit like the chick from "Avatar". Is their anyone here brave enough to turn her upside down to see where her tail ends?

That notwithstanding, if you continue to balk about installing Windows 10, Nadella is going to send her out to kick your a**.....!

 

[captaincranky]

"Forced" beta testing by 300 million users who never even wanted their ****.
Forced used of their poop search engine .

"Here is free poop , because our last 2 models were lemons"

My model was old enough to NOT me a lemon, and still the RAM this beta test down my throat.

I have disabled ALL of microsoft's data collection, as well as Cortana, They can shove their proprietary poop back where it came from. Right back down their Cake hole.

OK, if the truth be told, you never had to install any of those operating systems in the first place.

And as for M$ "ramming" Windows 10 "down your throat". all you had to do was read what updates you were installing, and they would be ignoring you completely.

 

[captaincranky]

Micro$lop just sent me an email telling me that they are cutting my free cloud storage from 15GB to 5 below is partial text:

"We want to let you know about some upcoming changes to OneDrive. On July 27, 2016, the amount of storage that comes with OneDrive will change from 15 GB to 5 GB. We are also discontinuing the 15 GB camera roll bonus. You can learn more at our FAQ."

Yet no one seems to talk about this. It seems to me that M$ is trying to force people into paying for storage.

Anyone else get such an email???

Was it signed by Prince Shaka Zulu in Nigeria...? Ya gotta watch that guy, he'll say anything to get your password to the cloud.

Why not just buy a couple extra hard drives, instead of letting M$ "herd" you into the "cloud" in the first place? I just bought one yesterday, 49 bucks for 1TB. Let me see now, how much is 1TB minus 5GB. Um, 995GB, if I'm not mistaken.

Since HDDs never were free, and in all likelihood never will be, that would have prevented all your dismay and frustration from having your freebies trimmed down a bit. Which by the way, I'm not sure how many here feel like listening your woes of, "not enough free stuff in the world to suit me ", anyway. Jus' sayin'.

 

[captaincranky]

I disabled Cortana forever as soon as I discovered this, and posted on social media that I was doing it, and why. I will never turn it on again, unless they restore my ability to use the browser and search engine of my choice.

Yeah well, methinks you'll have to get 300,000,000 other people to hold their breath and stamp their feet right along with you, if you expect real change. So good luck with that...

 

[Darth Shiv]

Micro$lop just sent me an email telling me that they are cutting my free cloud storage from 15GB to 5 below is partial text:

"We want to let you know about some upcoming changes to OneDrive. On July 27, 2016, the amount of storage that comes with OneDrive will change from 15 GB to 5 GB. We are also discontinuing the 15 GB camera roll bonus. You can learn more at our FAQ."

Yet no one seems to talk about this. It seems to me that M$ is trying to force people into paying for storage.

Anyone else get such an email???

Yes they are going the wrong way on cloud storage. Not trying to compete in the space for who knows what reason. They *had* a decent offering and have now burned a lot of people with that decision.

 

[RobStow]

The only time I use Bing is when a search field on a web page uses it ... and then results are usually so pathetic that I end up re-doing the search with DuckDuckGo or - occasionally - Google.

I like the idea of alternatives to Google but Bing is just not up to snuff. And, as someone else remarked, the results it returns are too heavily focused on ads instead of useful information. Avoiding Bing means I am much more likely to find the information I want without having for wade through too many ads.

The only time Bing returns decent search results is when it is almost impossible for them to try to sell me something. Try "muon catalyzed fusion", for example.

 

[cliffordcooley]

The only time I use Bing is when a search field on a web page uses it ... and then results are usually so pathetic that I end up re-doing the search with DuckDuckGo or - occasionally - Google.

What you search for, and what I search for must be completely different searches. I don't have a problem with Bing and rarely ever have to use the second page of results. The only scenario I can envision where someone would have trouble with Bing is, if they didn't know for sure exactly what they were searching for.

 

[captaincranky]

...[ ]....The only time Bing returns decent search results is when it is almost impossible for them to try to sell me something. Try "muon catalyzed fusion", for example.

Yeah, I have absolutely nothing to do this afternoon, so I'm going to compare search results for "muon catalyzed fusion". Hopefully, a hundred million people will join me in this quest, so we can effect positive change in all search engines, not just Bing. After all, "muon catalyzed fusion" is, I'm sure, the first thing which pops into most people's mind, right after checking their Facebook page.

So, "NameNotAllowed", get a grip. Web searches aren't all about some obscure theoretical nuclear fusion methodology, and they're not all about you. (Or me either for that matter).

So, I hear Cal Tech or MIT might be on the ball with such matters. Maybe you should search Amazon for their textbooks on the topic. I know, it's an extra step, and you'd have to push that big, heavy, mouse around another couple of feet. (Along with spending some money). But really, isn't the pursuit of, "real, practical, everyday, useful knowledge", worth it"?

On a more somber note, even if Bing or Google were to return valid searches on the topic, there more than likely, isn't a college or university in the country that's going to hand you a degree in nuclear physics, based on your command of learning about it on the web...

 

[oldikes]

Micro$lop just sent me an email telling me that they are cutting my free cloud storage from 15GB to 5 below is partial text:

"We want to let you know about some upcoming changes to OneDrive. On July 27, 2016, the amount of storage that comes with OneDrive will change from 15 GB to 5 GB. We are also discontinuing the 15 GB camera roll bonus. You can learn more at our FAQ."

Yet no one seems to talk about this. It seems to me that M$ is trying to force people into paying for storage.

Anyone else get such an email???

this has been news for a long time, and you had many months to go in and tell them you wanted to keep 15 GB, in which case they allow you.

 

[RobStow]

On a more somber note, even if Bing or Google were to return valid searches on the topic, there more than likely, isn't a college or university in the country that's going to hand you a degree in nuclear physics, based on your command of learning about it on the web...

I got my B.Sc. in physics 30 years ago and muon catalyzed fusion is one topic I retain some interest in and thus occasionally do searches on.

 

[captaincranky]

I got my B.Sc. in physics 30 years ago and muon catalyzed fusion is one topic I retain some interest in and thus occasionally do searches on.

Perhaps so, but you certainly can't categorize that as "typical". Having said that, you can't condemn Bing for not attaching a priority to information concerning it.

In fact, in this crazy topsy, turvy, world, there is a lot more information about Kim Kardashian on the web, that there is about, "muon catalyzed fusion".

Thus, you can't condemn a search engine for not finding information which isn't there either.

 

[RobStow]

Perhaps so, but you certainly can't categorize that as "typical". Having said that, you can't condemn Bing for not attaching a priority to information concerning it.

I never said it was "typical" - I said it was the one search I've done so far without Bing trying to sell me something. Most of the time when I do a Bing search I abandon the search results are start over again with something like Google ... and what makes me abandon Bing's output is the ads. And I never said anything to indicate that I thought Bing should "attach a priority" to that topic.

In fact, in this crazy topsy, turvy, world, there is a lot more information about Kim Kardashian on the web, that there is about, "muon catalyzed fusion".

Umm ... no. There are far, far, more web sites with information about Kim Kardashian than there are web sites with information about just about any useful topic ... but they all repeat the same old same old. Thus the grand total of the information on those web pages isn't significantly higher than what you would get on any single one of those web sites. There is far more information out there about moderately narrow fields like controlling plasma in a tokamak or stellerator than there is about K.K ... but on far, far fewer web sites.

[QUOTE="captaincranky, post: 1539597, member: 99521"Thus, you can't condemn a search engine for not finding information which isn't there either.[/QUOTE]

I don't condemn Bing for "not finding information that isn't there". I condemn it for mixing too many ads into the search results ... which usually causes me to repeat the search with DuckDuckGo or Google. And you missed the point of my using MCF as an example: it is the one case I've had where the search results were not ruined by advertising. Ie., Bing actually produced good results on that topic.