Microsoft won't release Service Pack 2 for Windows 7

By Shawn Knight ยท 129 replies
Oct 24, 2012
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  1. Xclusiveitalian

    Xclusiveitalian TS Evangelist Posts: 714   +75

    They didn't release it because they want you to go buy windows 8, which I'm definitely not doing. So too bad Windows, but you should be happy, im not running out and buying an overpriced mac either.
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  2. "windows XP had about 300 updates. if you wanna compare numbers."

    Okay, lets compare the numbers.

    Windows XP RTM date - August 24th, 2001 -
    Age of Operating System as of today - approximately 11 years and 2 months
    Approximate number of updates averaged over the life of the operating system =
    300/11 = ~27 updates per year

    Windows 7 RTM date - July 22nd, 2009 -
    Age of Operating System as of today - approximately 3 years and 3 months
    Approximate number of updates per year averaged over the life of the operating system
    222/3 = 74 updates per year

    But this comment is just a distraction from the real issue at hand which is Microsoft's under handed tactics to coerce people into upgrading to Windows 8 by making it public knowledge that Windows 7 Service Pack 2 won't see daylight. It's pathetic really. Understandable from a business point of view in one sense. They want people to buy their products by touting how much better the new is versus the last generation. The problem is every time they succeed in making a better product they shoot themselves in the foot. Millions of people still using Windows XP and no intentions of upgrading. Millions of happy customers using Windows 7 and no intentions of upgrading.

    So, going forward Microsoft has decided the only way they can get people to buy new products is by discontinuing support much faster than they have in the past. Good luck with this strategy, that's all I can say.

    This will alienate small business' and corporations more than anyone. But as we can see from the people posting in this forum that would purchase a shiny new turd if it had "New and Improved" stamped on the box, Microsoft won't lose all of its customers. Hope there are enough of these early adopters to support a multi-billion dollar corporation who is giving it's biggest supporters the middle finger.

    I have been bitching about this catastrophe called Windows 8 ever since I have known about it and I am just a desktop user. Can't imagine the backlash that will arise from corporations once this news becomes widespread. But I will enjoy following every minute of it. :)
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  3. jmiles

    jmiles TS Rookie

    Can anyone say, "Linux".
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  4. Emin3nce

    Emin3nce TS Rookie Posts: 129

    It's just to push more people to their locked down and stupefied windows ERT (8).
  5. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,739   +3,706

    Very tempting, this long time Windows user is slowly but surely opening his ears to the name Linux. In fact I've been thinking about starting a thread and asking advice about running Linux in Virtual PC.
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  6. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,671   +1,960

    MS lost its ground. They made many mistakes this year, of which the top ones are:

    1. Screwing up its own OEM-s, starting with HP and ending with Nokia;
    2. Removing Start menu in Windows 8;
    3. Disastrous VS 2012;
    4. Windows 8 RT laptops won't sell, and will likely cost MS for misinforming the customers on it;

    Refusal of Windows 7 Sp2 just adds to the list.

    I personally seriously consider dumping MS in favor of an alternative.
  7. MS truly have stuck their heads in the sand. This new model and OS will probably be OK for home users, but every time we have an IT management system about Windows 8/ Windows Server 2012 and now this news about service packs, we are left shaking our heads. Don't alienate the corporate/business worlds'll be all you have soon.
  8. I think the goal is not to kill off Windows 7, but to instead kill off the desktop as a platform, locking you into an app store, while they all chase after the IPad wannabe pipedream, in charge of all content.

    Linux, whilst good and all, is not really an option for the average joe. And as computing has always shown from the long line of dead platforms, that people do not give a rats about what's in the box as long as it runs the software that people want. Linux doesn't do that.

    Windows 8 is clumsy on the desktop and has no place there.

    Solution : Stay with Windows 7 SP1 and get yourself a hardware firewall for when the patches run out.
  9. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Evangelist Posts: 1,374   +69

    Based on the answers to the article about what you have pinned to the taskbar, noone said they never adopted windows 7 and you must all be pretty angry. I thought people were still on xp. I never adopted windows 7, because my budget just doesn't allow shelling out $150 minimum for a new os every 2 1/2 years. I might be adopting windows 8 on one non-touch computer, but microsoft doesn't give out free software any more without Gates.
  10. Linux, here I come!
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  11. Tanstar

    Tanstar TS Evangelist Posts: 617   +177

  12. jmiles

    jmiles TS Rookie

    Actually there is a great alternative to VMWare as well and it's open source. Oracle VM VirtualBox is one of Oracles best kept secrets and yes, it will run from most modern Os's hosting; LINUX/UNIX, OS2 and Windows XP, NT4 and 2000. Windows Vista and 7 (all versions) and I ran a prototype of Google Linux and ran Windows 8 CR although I was forced to apologize later :D
  13. Razer

    Razer TS Booster Posts: 126   +14

    Oh my, they force us to buy their win8!!
  14. QuaZulu

    QuaZulu TS Enthusiast Posts: 64   +10

    Ha! Microsoft can?t bludgeon me into 8?and if their current attitude continues, I won?t do 9 or beyond either.
  15. I also thought it was because of how stable Win7 actually is. Of course there is a better reasoning of having a SP2 just because all the updates that follow after SP1, but they are not that many compared to the XP's or Vista's. Is not a lifesaving decision. It simply helps the tedious tasks of having a "fresh install", which Win7 doesn't really need as its previous counterparts did, or at least not every so often (unless you really screw up your system, which most average users don't mess with). Is a valid point, and a strong one, for that matters, but it doesn't really make up for whinning about one last SP.
    Microsoft may decide of releasing a SP2 later on, without giving any reasons to the public. Do you really believe they are "sweating" because of all the complaints about 8? MS is a huge company, and knows that -specially angry- flamming isn't the feedback they actually need.

    Anyway, " that is just my opinion"... if that has any validation nowadays. :)
    I personally hate this new Win8 version. It has its positive features over Win7, but the GUI is just messed up and makes it somehow non-tablet-unfriendly.
  16. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,739   +3,706

    I think they have been so wrapped up in getting Windows 8 out and designing Windows 8 Touch, that they haven't had time to think about packaging Windows 7 updates into a Service Pack. Even if rumor is true, I also happen to think that demand will give us Service Pack 2 whether Microsoft want to publish it or not.
  17. Ranger1st

    Ranger1st TS Evangelist Posts: 348   +124

    Lol I love it, MS has so much confidence in it's products they are destroying their customer base to prove it. Between Apple and MS it feels like there is a paradigm shift on the way.
  18. dawei1993

    dawei1993 TS Rookie Posts: 37

    Wtf is microsoft thinking..... They knew there are thousands if not millions of windows 7 lovers.. this sucks.
  19. Benny26

    Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,535   +51

    Wow, what a bad move from Microsoft.

    They certainly wont be forcing me into Windows 8 using this strategy, or any other sane person for that matter.
  20. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,073   +219

    Well I'm done with windows, why would I buy win8 if they stop supporting it after 3 years. Ill grab linux or unix w.e the modern one is. I like windows 7 but come on....

    Then there is the no start button thing, there is no space on my desktop that I value more then that little button. New is ok but dont force us into it by ripping out the start button. Its like a door knob or light switch, they work just fine the way they are geeze.

    Instead of a single hand size knob we will no longer make houses with knobs now all doors have 2 squares you must simultaneously turn er something to that effect. Can we also have the old knobs on there? no!

    Im guessing someone is gonna say oh you can download xx and get the start button back any second neow. :cool:
  21. I'm on XP, but won't buy neither 7 or 8. Ubuntu will be my next OS.
  22. Kneep

    Kneep TS Enthusiast Posts: 44

    EASY now, there's a simple fix for this, find and download a recent image of it with all the updates rolled up into it :) Simple fix for us tech's, so/and I agree that MS made a STUPID here by not/never providing a SP with at least all the updates rolled up into one for download via Windows Update. (but seriously, how hard could it be, if any joe blow can do it, I doubt they'd need more than one or two persons at the campus to do this.
  23. As mentioned this is Microsoft's way of forcing an issue on it's customers, instead of listening to what customers want and delievering it. This just makes people get defensive and rebellious, nice move Microsoft.
    On the business side, we will be sticking with Windows 7 for the forseeable future. On the home front I have been making the move to Ubuntu Linux though I still have a Windows 7 machine. Once Steam releases a Linux client, that could be the end of Windows on the home front.
    For people who want to try out Linux, I recommend Ubuntu or Mint (based on Ubuntu). Of course there are many distrobutions but these two seem to be the best for the begining Linux user. You can always play around with the Live CD first.
  24. jizzyburnizzy

    jizzyburnizzy TS Enthusiast Posts: 61   +7

    What about all the business customers that run windows 7 and wont upgrade to windows 8?
  25. Reginold

    Reginold TS Rookie

    I think Microsoft is right. We are not living in Windows NT era. We all have fast internet connection to download the patches. Even small companies with one server deploy WSUS to push updates, clients machines need not even connect to internet to apply patches.

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