Microsoft's Surface 2 will replace paper manuals on all Delta aircraft

By Shawn Knight ยท 21 replies
Sep 30, 2013
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  1. Shoring up rumors on the subject, Delta Air Lines has announced plans to equip 11,000 pilots with Microsoft Surface 2 tablets. The devices will initially be used to replace heavy paper-based flight kits containing navigational charts, aircraft operating documents, reference...

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  2. Timonius

    Timonius TS Evangelist Posts: 647   +58

    Nice, but what happens when they bsod! lol
  3. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    So this is how microsoft plans to reduce some of that $900+million writeoff they recently did.
  4. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,713   +3,688

    Chances are that little detail will not be mentioned in the black box flight data. Maybe they will have redundancy and actually have more than one on hand (unless they are mounted into the console).
  5. They will probably have a backup Surface Pro 2. Still cheaper than using paper.
  6. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,713   +3,688

    Somehow I doubt that.

    Compare the price and lifespan of the Surface Pro to the cost of a paper manual. My God thats either an expensive paper manual or it is updated (I couldn't imagine very much changing between commission and decommission) every month. If anything the Surface Pro will be more convenient, but at a greater cost in the long run. I don't even think it will save on the number of trees cut down, we will find a way to continue killing our forest (it is in our nature).
  7. ===>..."passenger manifestos[sic]"

    That should come in handy when the Unibomber is on board.:p
  8. And yet passengers still arent granted the same luxury, quite silly.
  9. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,472   +126

    DELTA knows best, but frankly only one sided. All the printed material in the plane for passengers should be on the SURFACE as well to even save more fuel cost. This goes for all classes on the plane too.
  10. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,713   +3,688

    I can see it now. Someone needs a Surface Pro, so they can read "Sit down, shut up, and wait for the plane to land", in big bold letters. lol Yeah I know, there is a bit more to it. But seriously does it really need the expense of a tablet, to educate passengers in what should be common sense? Besides if the tablets were not nailed down, they would walk off the plane.
  11. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,730   +379

    Haha, I thought at first this was going to be about replacing the safety card, in flight magazine and other material that you get in the seat pocket.
  12. gamoniac

    gamoniac TS Guru Posts: 306   +73

    Now, it is only fair if they have to turn off the device during take-off and landing, too :)
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  13. gamoniac

    gamoniac TS Guru Posts: 306   +73

    The article says it is for the pilot manual, not the passenger safety guide. I guess it makes sense to be able to do a search for keywords "how to land safely" than having to flip through hundreds pages in a pinch of time.
  14. If you're pilot has to look up "How to land safely", you've got bigger than issues than the format used for the manual.
  15. gamoniac

    gamoniac TS Guru Posts: 306   +73

    Hint: it was a joke.
  16. arockylypse

    arockylypse TS Rookie

    Gives new meaning to the term Blue Screen Of Death eh?
  17. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Evangelist Posts: 603   +64

    They're replacing a flight manual. A flight. Manual. That's a book. Books don't control flight systems. Flight systems don't have any knowledge of books.
    Firstly, they're buy Surface 2s, not Surface 2 Pros.
    Secondly, the savings isn't in the cost of buying the flight kits, but in the fuel consumption, you nub. 11,000 Surface 2s at retail (which they are definitely not paying) is $4,939,000. Delta has estimated $13 million in fuel cost savings, which means in the first year, they will still be saving $8 million after having bought the tablets. They could buy brand new tablets each year, and still save more money than using the paper flight kits.
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  18. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    Don't you mean "Blue Scream of Death?" :)
  19. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    Maybe MS is throwing in a hidden compartment in these Surface 2's to accommodate parachutes for the cockpit crew just to sweeten the deal... I wonder if Ballmer will have the courage to fly Delta Airlines after the deal goes through... I mean he wouldn't want to miss out on his golden handshake, would he now?
  20. Wonder how much Microsoft is paying Delta to use their device. I am sure an ipad would have saved just as much on the paper manuals and the ipads actually work.

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,255   +454

    Why not an eReader? A Surface tablet? What a waste...
  22. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,713   +3,688

    The manuals must be huge, if they make that much difference. I don't believe those figures, made up to convince head office it is a good idea. The thing about quick calculations in a sales pitch is they are often wrong and too many variables were never considered.

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