New graphic card/case, need recommendations

[red1776]

I know dude, I understand what your trying to say. All good.

Hey, here is one benchmark of many, may give you a jumping off point.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460_2.html#sect0

Heres another with an OC version of the 460
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GTX_460_Cyclone_OC_1_GB/1.html


BTW what res do you/want to game at?

 

[darkty]

Red- I want everything to look pretty and polished lol. 1920x1080. My monatair has a HDMI port so maybe the card can be HDMI to.

 

[dividebyzero]

Virtually all graphics cards of the current generation have HDMI output, although most nvidia cards use mini-HDMI, so either a mini-HDMI to HDMI cable or adapter needs to be used (although quite a few cards include one or the other in their accessories).

 

[red1776]

Check these out, If your an OC'er I just installed my 3 x HD 5850's and was able to get 115Mhz on the core and 175Mhz on the memory.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1075&cm_re=gtx_460_1gb-_-14-261-075-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0477&cm_re=hd_5850_1gb-_-14-150-477-_-Product

 

[dividebyzero]

So what's that based on red ? 880/1175 (over the Giga clocks), 840/1175 (over the XFX you linked to). Have you tried the cards individually for OC?

 

[EXCellR8]

how are those XFX radeons btw?

 

[dividebyzero]

From my perspective, I'd say that the XFX brand isn't any better or worse than any other TBH.
Same performance, same bundle. Can't say I've had much to do with their support - most of the AMD cards down this way are Sapphire (cheaper, ok support), HIS (cheaper still, non-existant support) then it's a drop (availability/higher price wise) to PowerColor (lousy warranty) and the tier 1 guys (Asus, MSI and Gigabyte).

 

[red1776]

So what's that based on red ? 880/1175 (over the Giga clocks), 840/1175 (over the XFX you linked to). Have you tried the cards individually for OC?

Oh yes, good point, that is for my giga cards. I OC'ed them individually and that was the high for all three to run in unison. I had one of them that reached core of 1190Mhz and 1205 memory....don't ask me how that's possible on the core speed, (maybe I got a 28nm wafer by mistake) Haha. I linked him to the XFX for the lifetime warranty and it vents out of the case. I preferred the Gigabyte for the cooling solution. lots of copper, heat-pipes, dual fan setup. and they do run cool. keep in mind darkty, they all have individual characteristics, just gave you some anecdotal evidence from my little corner of the world. But they do seem to OC fairly well, the word is that the 460's have even more headroom. I would have considered a 3x 460 GTX setup . however the Crosshair IV is CF only and the Formula IV was a priority for me.

 

[dividebyzero]

Just as well you didn't try for Tri-SLI...the GTX 460 is SLI only (maybe SLI+PhysX) probably nvidia don't want to completely kill off any reason to buy the GTX 480 (for SLI) or the GTX 475 (that's got to be coming since nvidia are dropping GTX 470 prices).
darkty, I'd probably read as many reviews as you can stomach of the available cards if you plan on a mainstream graphics card buy in November, as they will probably all be available (and cheaper) along with some new models.
Some crystal ball gazing might give you an available lineup like:

..........ATI.......................nvidia
HD 5970.............GTX495
HD 6870.............GTX 480 (512SP
.........................GTX 480 (480SP)- if still in production (unlikely)
HD 5870/6850..... GTX 475
HD 5850...............GTX 460 1Gb
HD 6770...............GTX 460 768Mb
HD 6750...............GTS 450

All in all, a little supposition and a lot of guesswork based on various web news sources- some reliable, and some....not so much. If AMD keep to their usual way of doing things then the high end and mainstream parts should launch first (HD 6870 and 6850) followed by a dual card IF they can bin enough chips to keep the card under PCI-E spec of 300watts -no small order if ,as scuttlebutt has it, the HD 6xxx series will have a larger die and higher (~200w+) power draw.

 

[EXCellR8]

From my perspective, I'd say that the XFX brand isn't any better or worse than any other TBH

i've owned a few nvidia XFX cards and they were decent, but when i saw that they were rolling out some HD4xxx series radeons i was a bit perplexed; wanted to wait and see how they compared. they do offer a double lifetime warranty on most of their cards but to me that's pretty worthless as i am upgrading at least every couple of years anyways.

as for ATI cards, i'm content with VisionTek or HIS

 

[red1776]

I decided to not wait for the Southern islands parts to come out. I surmise the supposed October launch is going to be an investor/fiscal year illusion. I figured if the SI parts turn out to be that great an improvement, I will ebay the 5850's or give a customer a good discount on a build. and get the 6850's/70's. I have not seen anything specific in the 10.6-10.7 driver release notes, but the scaling for the 5000 seems to have dramatically improved if my 5850'sare any indication.

 

[EXCellR8]

Southern Islands?

I've heard that the rumored HD6xxx series is going to be nothing more than a revamped HD5xxx lineup, with no actual new GPUs being introduced. No idea if there's any truth behind it but I can't see how far ATI would really take their cards with DX11 still in its infancy.

 

[red1776]

Southern Islands?

I've heard that the rumored HD6xxx series is going to be nothing more than a revamped HD5xxx lineup, with no actual new GPUs being introduced. No idea if there's any truth behind it but I can't see how far ATI would really take their cards with DX11 still in its infancy.

No your correct EXCell, Southern Islands is just the code name for the next batch of 40nm silicone that taped out last month. It was originally Northern islands , but Global Foundries is behind on the 28nm process. The 6xxx is going to be a refresh of the 5xxx series, how much of an improvement is anybodies guess. Like I said, I was holding out before buying, but October is most likely going to be a paper/investor launch.

 

[EXCellR8]

Dumb question, but is the current lineup of HD5xxx card's 50 or 45nm?

 

[red1776]

Dumb question, but is the current lineup of HD5xxx card's 50 or 45nm?

not a dumb question,
The 5000 are 40nm as will the 6000 series be. ATI has stated that they are skipping the 32nm process and going right to 28nm, but it will have to wait until the 7000 (or whatever they will be called) now slated for late 2011.

*** hey I forgot to ask, if your getting rid of your 4870's. What are you replacing them with?