New York follows California in mandating zero-emission vehicles by 2035

[toooooot]

A lot can happen before 2035. Change in tech, political party, and wars.

Or at the very least Cali does not come up with solution for its electric shortage.

 

[RickSteele]

New York: You can't sell gas-powered vehicles here.
All the neighboring states: YUSSSS!

 

[zulu53]

Great for all the people of Quebec (from where all of NY get its electricity, at least its clean being hydroelectric). They will be able to charge much more than at present; perhaps double or triple, say 30c a kwh at least. Quebeckers will just have more vacation time in Florida........hmm thinking about it - Florida will also benefit greatly from the NY decision. Roll on the good times..........as long as you don't have to actually live in NY.

 

[zulu53]

Or at the very least Cali does not come up with solution for its electric shortage.

The solution for California is already in place. Pay at least double for electricity kwh and buy from British Columbia.

 

[zulu53]

At least NY has a history of low power consumption (the days when the Dutch owned Manhatten). Everyone knows how to go back to walking, horse and buggy to get around.........right?

 

[Rocky4040]

Good luck with that. Until they can make an EV that can go as far on batteries as a gas powered car. Until they can make an EV charge as fast as a gas powered car can be filled with gas. Until these EV's can handle extreme cold like where I live. Until these and many other conditions are met they are a fail.

I personally am not willing to sit in my car and twiddle my thumbs for 45 minutes to 1.5 hours while my car charges when I go on a long trip and then have to do it again in 150-200 miles. If they can make charging no more than 15-20 minutes and have them last a long time when the temps drop to -35c to -40c then maybe I might be interested in one until then I'll stick with my gas powered car it just works and does not take hours to fill up the tank.

I'm sure there will be someone that says oh while charging and having to wait is a good time to get out of the car and go get something to eat or maybe take a nap. Sorry no I'm not about to take a nap in the middle of no where and maybe get car jacked or something lol. I also tend to bring snacks for a long trip so can pull over grab a snack and pop or water and have a quick smoke and be on our way again in about 10 minutes not an hour or two.

 

[scavengerspc]

EV batteries can lose up to 40+% of their charge in cold climates.

Fuel Economy in Cold Weather

Cold weather can reduce your fuel economy. Our tips can help improve your gas mileage when temperatures drop.

www.fueleconomy.gov

 

[scavengerspc]

I hear all the "planned" charging stations that Biden wants to get built kind of fell through and there will not be enough built

Arkansas plans for electric car charging stations every 50 miles along highways

Arkansas is set to receive $54 million to ensure electric vehicle charging stations will be built at least every 50 miles along the state highways.

www.5newsonline.com

Biden Administration approves Arkansas's EV charging infrastructure plans along highways

On September 14, the Biden-Harris Administration announced their approval of Arkansas’s plan to build out an electric vehicle (EV) charging infrastructure.

www.thv11.com

And this is Arkansas.
I live in Little Rock. It is well underway.

I hear the US will need to increase the electricity output that it currently does, by upwards of an additional 35% by 2035 and by 75% by 2050 to be able to accommodate all the extra electric vehicles that will be on the roads by then.

And that's what we will do. Though you overstated it. We are already doing it.

Myth buster: Electric vehicles will overload the power grid | Virta

Some argue that EVs will make the grid unstable, which could mean hefty investments. Facts and data show why they are wrong.

www.virta.global

Fact: If 80% of all passenger cars become electric, this would lead to a total increase of 10-15% in electricity consumption.
So far, the market entry of EVs has been very predictable and the electric grid is constantly being developed in parallel. Current EV market trends show low to moderate energy uptake rates.

I'm not sure what kind of stable electric grid we have in the US, but if CA is any kind of indication right now with how they're asking folks to refrain from charging their cars during "peak" hours.....we're F'ed.

During the incredible heat California had this summer, there was not one brown out, for the first time in years.

Newsom boasts California avoided rolling blackouts in extreme heat, says anti-green critics want to 'double down on stupid'

Newsom debunked claims by media outlets and Republican politicians that California failed to keep the power on during the heat wave.

www.cnbc.com

You can bet the "elite" of society, wealthy, politicians, celebs etc will be IMMUNE to this.

Yeah. These damn elitist want all those bad things. Clean air and water. DAMN THEM!

There isn't enough Lithium in the world, to instantly switch from "fossil fuels".

We aren't going to need nearly as much lithium soon. But why don't you led by example now. Toss your phones and laptops, TV's, cosmetics and fireworks.
Be gone with your cordless tools. Wait. Cordless everything! PC peripherals, bluetooth....everything with a battery. Who owns a digital camera? Tablet PC? Are you a gamer? Best chuck the cordless controller. Throw away your smoke\gas detectors.

EDIT - I'm posting this for anyone that actually wants to learn about future EV batteries:

Storage Wars: What the Future Holds for EV Batteries

In the near term, two types of lithium-ion cells will dominate.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Arkansas plans for electric car charging stations every 50 miles along highways

Arkansas is set to receive $54 million to ensure electric vehicle charging stations will be built at least every 50 miles along the state highways.

www.5newsonline.com

Biden Administration approves Arkansas's EV charging infrastructure plans along highways

On September 14, the Biden-Harris Administration announced their approval of Arkansas’s plan to build out an electric vehicle (EV) charging infrastructure.

www.thv11.com

And this is Arkansas.
I live in Little Rock. It is well underway.


And that's what we will do. Though you overstated it. We are already doing it.

Myth buster: Electric vehicles will overload the power grid | Virta

Some argue that EVs will make the grid unstable, which could mean hefty investments. Facts and data show why they are wrong.

www.virta.global

Fact: If 80% of all passenger cars become electric, this would lead to a total increase of 10-15% in electricity consumption.
So far, the market entry of EVs has been very predictable and the electric grid is constantly being developed in parallel. Current EV market trends show low to moderate energy uptake rates.



During the incredible heat California had this summer, there was not one brown out, for the first time in years.

Newsom boasts California avoided rolling blackouts in extreme heat, says anti-green critics want to 'double down on stupid'

Newsom debunked claims by media outlets and Republican politicians that California failed to keep the power on during the heat wave.

www.cnbc.com

Yeah. These damn elitist want all those bad things. Clean air and water. DAMN THEM!


We aren't going to need nearly as much lithium soon. But why don't you led by example now. Toss your phones and laptops, TV's, cosmetics and fireworks.
Be gone with your cordless tools. Wait. Cordless everything! PC peripherals, bluetooth....everything with a battery. Who owns a digital camera? Tablet PC? Are you a gamer? Best chuck the cordless controller. Throw away your smoke\gas detectors.

EDIT - I'm posting this for anyone that actually wants to learn about future EV batteries:

Storage Wars: What the Future Holds for EV Batteries

In the near term, two types of lithium-ion cells will dominate.

www.caranddriver.com

All on the taxpayers dime.

 

[scavengerspc]

All on the taxpayers dime.

Everything Government does is paid for by taxes.