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[candle86]

And then Cain slew Able. I take it you've never actually read the bible. Even we heathens can't get away with killing our own brothers in cold blood.

Oh well, time to crack out your checkbook, Joel Osteen needs your money to get the word out.

Completely and in it's entirety. Change didn't get away with it either he was punished by God he was cast out to the wilderness. But you probably missed the part where Cain was punished.

At the end of the day I frankly don't care whether you agree with it or not but sex is something that should only be between two married people and the privacy of their own home it should never be something that is public it should never be between two one married people it should never be between two men or two women it's only between one man one woman in the privacy of their own home.

 

[captaincranky]

Man is a fallen species, to give into one's innate nature would also be to given to murder. It is good and just to not fall victim to one's own nature and it is good and just if necessary to pass laws that make certain things wrong pornography is no different than murder.

You really have the market cornered on self righteousness, don't you? News flash, man is the most vicious and ruthless apex predator to ever walk the earth. We invented gods because our egos are so enormous that we don't believe the world will exist without us. It won't, but only for any individual, not for those remaining extant and sentient..

Religion is the means the state uses to control the masses through fear. The separation of church and state ends, where "one nation under god", begins.

It requires more character to live a good life, if you can do it without the concept of heaven dangled in front of us as a reward for a life of piety.

I'm a big fan of erotic art. But I will concede that it's getting raunchier year on year.

Then too, one has to question whether it's wrong for post pubescent individuals to be exposed to it. Society imposes delaying the exposure of sexual materials on us. If mommy and daddy don't tell their kids about, "the birds and the bees", their kids will learn it on the streets. Those same kids' raging hormones will virtually compel them to learn it on the streets, sometimes with unwanted side effects. My vote goes to crushing up birth control pills and putting them in their breakfast cereals.

A word of advice, preaching at people only alienates them, and you've come out of the blocks a hellin; <(Is that a mixed metaphor?)

Tell the truth, wouldn't you like a side piece that knows how to do the reverse cowgirl? After all, couldn't you just walk into a confessional and be forgiven afterwards..

 

[candle86]

You really have the market cornered on self righteousness, don't you? News flash, man is the most vicious and ruthless apex predator to ever walk the earth. We invented gods because our egos are so enormous that we don't believe the world will exist without us. It won't, but only for any individual, not for those remaining extant and sentient..

Religion is the means the state uses to control the masses through fear. The separation of church and state ends, where "one nation under god", begins.

It requires more character to live a good life, if you can do it without the concept of heaven dangled in front of us as a reward for a life of piety.

I'm a big fan of erotic art. But I will concede that it's getting raunchier year on year.

Then too, one has to question whether it's wrong for post pubescent individuals to be exposed to it. Society imposes delaying the exposure of sexual materials on us. If mommy and daddy don't tell their kids about, "the birds and the bees", their kids will learn it on the streets. Those same kids' raging hormones will virtually compel them to learn it on the streets, sometimes with unwanted side effects. My vote goes to crushing up birth control pills and putting them in their breakfast cereals.

A word of advice, preaching at people only alienates them, and you've come out of the blocks a hellin; <(Is that a mixed metaphor?)

Tell the truth, wouldn't you like a side piece that knows how to do the reverse cowgirl? After all, couldn't you just walk into a confessional and be forgiven afterwards..

I'm happily married I don't want this side piece I don't need a side piece. And that's not how forgiveness works forgiveness happens if one is sincerely and truly repentant which repent also means to turn away doing it just so you can be forgiven and then doing it again is not actually forgiven. And it is impossible to lead a moral life without the Bible 110% impossible.

 

[GeoffreyA]

Tell the truth, wouldn't you like a side piece that knows how to do the reverse cowgirl?

Well, a faithful and loved partner or spouse can and will do far more than reverse cowgirl; indeed, the audacity may raise one's eyebrows.

 

[Squid Surprise]

The Bible is the best code to morale behavior to ever exist that is a fact

No it isn’t… it’s caused more death than any other book in existence… go do some research on the Crusades…
And where is your “fact” checker… I await some evidence…

 

[Northy]

The Bible is the best code to morale behavior to ever exist that is a fact

Yeah it's good stuff. Particularly frothy where we go around killing in the name of God, adulterers, gays, lazy people, Sunday workers, people who swear at parents and blasphemers. I think others really get into the bit where if God is really cheesed (see above offenses) we go to cities and kill all the men, women, children, infants, cattle, sheep, goats and donkeys... except for the virgins, we get to keep them.

Bible is the shiz. Furreal.

 

[captaincranky]

Well, a faithful and loved partner or spouse can and will do far more than reverse cowgirl; indeed, the audacity may raise one's eyebrows.

Are we talking physically or emotionally? Are we trading, or compromising, one against the other?

I'm happily married I don't want this side piece I don't need a side piece. And that's not how forgiveness works forgiveness happens if one is sincerely and truly repentant which repent also means to turn away doing it just so you can be forgiven and then doing it again is not actually forgiven. And it is impossible to lead a moral life without the Bible 110% impossible.

IMO, there are only two types of individuals involved in a "successful relationship", one dominant, and one submissive. That's regardless of sexual orientation. So, as often as not, the happy" individual, is more successful at catering to the dominant partner's whim, wishes, and desires.

As far as religion goes, and the bible along with it, what a**hole god are we obligated to pray to in this era? As far as I'm concerned, that "bible belt" consists of a herd of delusional individuals. I got as far as Genesis I when I realized it was simply ego stoking by a pack of amateur propagandists, without any knowledge of how the world actually came about, or for that matter, actually functions.

The only viable or useful thing we have drawn from the bible, is the ten commandments, upon which almost the entirety of our legal system is based.

Beyond that, y'all can keep all your bible thumping bullsh*t to yourselves.

 

[captaincranky]

I think others really get into the bit where if God is really cheesed (see above offenses) we go to cities and kill all the men, women, children, infants, cattle, sheep, goats and donkeys... except for the virgins, we get to keep them.

Bible is the shiz. Furreal.

Couldn't we at least stone the virgins too, if ever so lightly? It would get the message across that an "honor killing" is just around the corner, should they stray from the path of righteousness and embrace iniquity.

 

[GeoffreyA]

Are we talking physically or emotionally? Are we trading, or compromising, one against the other?

I meant physically, but emotionally would apply too. When a partner is in love, having their distinctive needs met (will vary according to attachment type), and isn't neglected, no matter how modest in the rest of life, they bloom sexually, becoming Aphrodite so to speak, because your love makes them feel beautiful and confident. Physical relations decline when something is wrong in the relationship: love is fading, resentment, etc.

IMO, there are only two types of individuals involved in a "successful relationship", one dominant, and one submissive. That's regardless of sexual orientation. So, as often as not, the happy" individual, is more successful at catering to the dominant partner's whim, wishes, and desires.

True. But attachment style also plays a role: usually, there's a dynamic where the less avoidant one chases the more avoidant, often pushing them away. Resentment builds because the avoidant becomes "the limiting factor" (think in CPU and GPU terms), leading to the other feeling that they're being controlled. And if it's a fearful avoidant on one side, they seem to switch "the equation of state" from anxious to avoidant cyclically, leading to heartache.

As far as religion goes, and the bible along with it, what a**hole god are we obligated to pray to in this era? As far as I'm concerned, that "bible belt" consists of a herd of delusional individuals. I got as far as Genesis I when I realized it was simply ego stoking by a pack of amateur propagandists, without any knowledge of how the world actually came about, or for that matter, actually functions.

There's a common belief that the choice is between atheism and religion. In fact, there is an area between. One can believe in a creator and not adhere to any religion. I don't believe the creator has given us scripture or books. Rather, the evidence is in the nature of things. Nor is it "magic." Everything follows the strictest laws of maths and what physics unveils. If anything, I would say the creator is a mathematician and engineer whom we know little about. Another line of thought is that this could be a simulation. Our pain makes it quite real.

 

[Squid Surprise]

I meant physically, but emotionally would apply too. When a partner is in love, having their distinctive needs met (will vary according to attachment type), and isn't neglected, no matter how modest in the rest of life, they bloom sexually, becoming Aphrodite so to speak, because your love makes them feel beautiful and confident. Physical relations decline when something is wrong in the relationship: love is fading, resentment, etc.


True. But attachment style also plays a role: usually, there's a dynamic where the less avoidant one chases the more avoidant, often pushing them away. Resentment builds because the avoidant becomes "the limiting factor" (think in CPU and GPU terms), leading to the other feeling that they're being controlled. And if it's a fearful avoidant on one side, they seem to switch "the equation of state" from anxious to avoidant cyclically, leading to heartache.


There's a common belief that the choice is between atheism and religion. In fact, there is an area between. One can believe in a creator and not adhere to any religion. I don't believe the creator has given us scripture or books. Rather, the evidence is in the nature of things. Nor is it "magic." Everything follows the strictest laws of maths and what physics unveils. If anything, I would say the creator is a mathematician and engineer whom we know little about. Another line of thought is that this could be a simulation. Our pain makes it quite real.

People are DIFFERENT… not everyone’s love life is the same. As long as it’s consensual, there is nothing wrong with variety.

The real flaw with most religion is their tendency to foist their beliefs on others. With Christians, it comes from Jesus misquoting Hillel with the “golden rule”. That rule was never meant to interpret “do unto others” into “convert any non-believers and kill them if they refuse” but simply to act civilized…

If you hate porn so much, feel free not to partake… but don’t foist those beliefs on the rest of us.

 

[GeoffreyA]

People are DIFFERENT… not everyone’s love life is the same. As long as it’s consensual, there is nothing wrong with variety.

The real flaw with most religion is their tendency to foist their beliefs on others. With Christians, it comes from Jesus misquoting Hillel with the “golden rule”. That rule was never meant to interpret “do unto others” into “convert any non-believers and kill them if they refuse” but simply to act civilized…

If you hate porn so much, feel free not to partake… but don’t foist those beliefs on the rest of us.

I agree with you, and don't understand what the disagreement is. I'm not defending religion, which I consider to be a circus, nor "evil done in the name of God." I reject that, as any thinking person would, and partly criticised the Bible/OT in an earlier comment.

 

[Squid Surprise]

I agree with you, and don't understand what the disagreement is. I'm not defending religion, which I consider to be a circus, nor "evil done in the name of God." I reject that, as any thinking person would, and partly criticised the Bible/OT in an earlier comment.

Sorry, meant to reply to candle - but spot on!