No porn for you, UK: Online Safety Act now requires age and ID checks on all adult sites

For all you knobs pro ID. Remem this when the news comes back in a few years when the rape count doubles or triples - it'll be your own fault for voting in such extreme solutions.

The best way to protect your own kids as a parent, is to be vigilant, inc parental controls on your kids digital devices, and for **** sake the best advice I can give to any parent, TALK and COMMUNICATE with your kids!
 
freedom has limits, porn isn't art or speech, it has no value to society. It should be banned worldwide
Who are you to decide those limits?
Porn, actually, almost by definition, IS art! It’s just art that many disapprove of (but secretly enjoy anyways) because of antiquated religious values.

The two things that most societies tend to gravitate towards are sex and violence. Both are integral to human nature. For some reason, we prefer the display of violence over sex… but think to yourself honestly, if you had to choose what your kid will do in the future, would you choose “murder someone” or “have sex with someone”?

I really hope you’re choosing sex… yet… here we are…
 
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Open Brave (comes with a built in VPN)...
Select 'New private window with TOR' (or press Shift-ALT-N)...
Problem solved - tommy tank time...
 
Frankly, I'm astounded it's eventually got this far AT ALL.

First proposed back in the noughties, it's been working its way through the Commons AND the Lords at a glacial pace for almost 18 years now. It can't be attributed to any one political party, 'cos in one way or another they've all embraced it at times.....but the freedom of speech crowd have repeatedly been chucking great big spanners in the works......and because we Brits are so awfully 'PC' these days, don'tcha know?......every time this happens, there has to be yet another big publicly-funded "enquiry" accompanied by months & months of tedious, long-winded debate.

I can't help thinking they're barking up the wrong tree with this one, and at some point in the future it'll come back to bite 'em where the sun doesn't shine.

Kids ain't stupid. Each generation are more tech-savvy than their parents, and the 'age of innocence' is ending earlier & earlier as the years pass; if they want to do summat that's 'banned', they'll find ways round it......ably assisted by their peers. It's just human nature, where this kinda stuff is concerned.

In my mid-60s, I consider myself 'well-adjusted'. I like girls; I enjoy interaction with the delightful creatures. Frankly, most porn sites leave me cold; all that raw meat on display.....it's like a sodding butcher's shop! I prefer stuff being left to the imagination...

I've had a long-standing interest in anime, manga and hentai. Laughably, many of these sites, despite having small sections catering to 'that' side of things, are also getting caught-up in this ludicrous waste of time. Most of them are simply pulling out of the UK. Yet more culture getting caught under the hammer of political correctness..!

I blame our Victorian forbears for the ridiculously puritanical attitude they've bequeathed to modern society. Exquisitely prim, proper and oh! SO 'correct' on the outside, if you ever pulled back the veil you would discover the biggest bunch of perverts imaginable....to whom pedophilia was MILD compared to some of the bat-sh*t insanity they used to get up to!

I wonder how long Opera's built-in 'VPN' will work for the one site I can't access by normal means ATM (not really a VPN, more a kind of re-direct mechanism)....

(*shrug....*)

Miq.
 
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dont criticize the US government when you are here illegally. You dont have swarms of US citizens "having their citizenship threatened", that is misinformation, just like all the claims that project 2025 was gonna become real.

People have got to stop believing 4chan.

How many? And how many illegals were rounded up? Something tells me the raw numbers dont back your claims up, if they did you would have included them.

Snowden didnt "criticize the government", he was a whistleblower who leaked huge amounts of classified information. What happened to him was absolutely unjust. This doesnt change the fact the US is still FAR preferrable for basic rights VS totalitarian states like China.

No, there are objective measures in which China is inferior. Poor quality infrastructure, a total lack of consumer protections and food safety, and an orwellian government. Anyone who thinks that the US is on par with china is delusional, you see millions of americans openly slag the standing president and congress ece, in china this would get you black van'd within minutes.

People have this massive blind spot when it comes to china. They cry about how bad america is, when China is actively engaged in the genocide of the Ugers, actively practices imperialism with predatory practices throughout Africa, and implements 1984 tier social control systems with alarming efficiency. The people openly complaining about how the US is just as bad are running ont he purest grade of irony and unawareness that, if they were remotely correct, they would not have the freedom to complain about the US all day.

They currently have a bill in the house of lords to make that illegal as well.

That's perfectly fine. I stand by what I say, and you will continue to be called out for being blatantly wrong.
"You dont have swarms of US citizens "having their citizenship threatened"" - officially a few tens, including 2yo children were illegally deported without due process by ICE.

"claims that project 2025 was gonna become real" - are you drunk? everything that has been happening now is in project 2025. there are trackers for this. over 40% of the things in it were already implemented. don't believe me? here: https://www.project2025.observer/

Here's a good example of something implemented: “Schedule F”, a proposal to reclassify about 50,000 civil service jobs as political, thereby allowing a president to fire such people at will. It was drafted by James Sherk, a Trump adviser on civil service and labor issues in the first term. This was shelved by Biden, but Project 2025 advocated putting it swiftly to use.

This is why Trump is using fascist tactics like "loyalty" tests.

You simply cannot claim that project 2025 isn't being implemented as we speak. it's a sad fact that it is happening.

As for "illegals" being deported, that's not a bad thing. The problem is the complete lack of due process and the deportation of people who were legally in the country with papers and court hearings in process. This is because of MANDATORY quotas that ICE has to deliver on and enforced by Trump and his criminal goons...

Once you add quotas to deportation you see the abuses, the kidnappings and the illegality of what ICE is doing. Not to mention the complete lack of morality.
 
Who are you to decide those limits?
Porn, actually, almost by definition, IS art! It’s just art that many disapprove of (but secretly enjoy anyways) because of antiquated religious values.

The two things that most societies tend to gravitate towards are sex and violence. Both are integral to human nature. For some reason, we prefer the display of violence over sex… but think to yourself honestly, if you had to choose what your kid will do in the future, would you choose “murder someone” or “have sex with someone”?

I really hope you’re choosing sex… yet… here we are…
I would choose that my kid unless in the army or goes to theological school.
 
-Its actually both art and speech. If you don't like it, don't watch it. If you don't want your kids seeing it, don't give them unrestricted access to the Internet.

No big brother, big government, heavy handed solitions required.
No the world work better when we had moral codes when this kind of filth was illegal when you went to jail for it let's go back to those happier times.
 
If it had no value to society, it wouldn't exist. Perhaps it has no value to you. Entertainment value is subjective.

It's morally wrong, same as white houses and strip clubs. All of it should be made illegal with hefty criminal penalties think 5 to 10 years in prison for distribution, for the first offense second offense 20 years.
 
I would choose that my kid unless in the army or goes to theological school.
What does that even mean?
No the world work better when we had moral codes when this kind of filth was illegal when you went to jail for it let's go back to those happier times.
Yeah… the world that brought us 2 world wars? Or maybe you’re heartening back to the Crusades?
Despite the media reporting on every bad event, the world has been constantly improving.
Maybe stop living in the past - especially when you’re on a tech site?
It's morally wrong, same as white houses and strip clubs. All of it should be made illegal with hefty criminal penalties think 5 to 10 years in prison for distribution, for the first offense second offense 20 years.
Yeah - many countries have tried that… it doesn’t work well when you set laws against human nature…
 
What does that even mean?

Yeah… the world that brought us 2 world wars? Or maybe you’re heartening back to the Crusades?
Despite the media reporting on every bad event, the world has been constantly improving.
Maybe stop living in the past - especially when you’re on a tech site?

Yeah - many countries have tried that… it doesn’t work well when you set laws against human nature…

Man is a fallen species, to give into one's innate nature would also be to given to murder. It is good and just to not fall victim to one's own nature and it is good and just if necessary to pass laws that make certain things wrong pornography is no different than murder.
 
Man is a fallen species, to give into one's innate nature would also be to given to murder. It is good and just to not fall victim to one's own nature and it is good and just if necessary to pass laws that make certain things wrong pornography is no different than murder.

-Bruh we're learning way too much about your lack of impulse control and need for external controls in this topic.
 
Man is a fallen species, to give into one's innate nature would also be to given to murder. It is good and just to not fall victim to one's own nature and it is good and just if necessary to pass laws that make certain things wrong pornography is no different than murder.
No… murder is not the same as porn… that you would even state that tells us more about you than we really needed to know.

If you honestly think that someone watching porn is the same as someone murdering someone, you need to see a psychiatrist ASAP.

Also, a LARGE percentage of the population watches porn - and virtually ALL of the population has sex (or wants to). THAT is human nature. A very SMALL percentage murders - so not human nature…
 
No… murder is not the same as porn… that you would even state that tells us more about you than we really needed to know.

If you honestly think that someone watching porn is the same as someone murdering someone, you need to see a psychiatrist ASAP.

Also, a LARGE percentage of the population watches porn - and virtually ALL of the population has sex (or wants to). THAT is human nature. A very SMALL percentage murders - so not human nature…
Sin is sin and all are equal
 
Man is a fallen species, to give into one's innate nature would also be to given to murder. It is good and just to not fall victim to one's own nature and it is good and just if necessary to pass laws that make certain things wrong pornography is no different than murder.
Masturbation is absoluely perfectly normal and even considered very healthy for everyone. Stop with this nonsense.

Take your bible thumping elsewhere. Its fine if you want to live by religious values, its not ok to force it onto others. As a Christian, I live by the rules I set for myself and God has set for me, you dont get to set those rules.

Sin is also not equal, common trope amongst religious folks who just repeat things they read on the internet instead of actually practicing being a christian. As a christian, its easy for me to dispel things like this. Its that all sin is equally wrong but not all sin is equally bad. The whole all sin is equal quote has been disproven so many times. Go back to your bible study class man. You leave out the entire context by stopping the quote there.

Just like Jesus doesnt say we shouldnt judge others, he says we should judge others with righteousness. You are to help folks find the way, not berate them and treat them with any sort of ill will. It tells us to use discernment. Without judgeing, you cannot determine right from wrong.
 
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Unless the UK is willing to ban VPNs, which would be North Korean type control of the citizenry, then the age verification checks are easily bypassed, even for minors.
 
The Bible is the best code to morale behavior to ever exist that is a fact
And then Cain slew Able. I take it you've never actually read the bible. Even we heathens can't get away with killing our own brothers in cold blood.

Oh well, time to crack out your checkbook, Joel Osteen needs your money to get the word out.
 
The Bible is the best code to morale behavior to ever exist that is a fact
Jesus's teachings are excellent, especially the Golden Rule, but there's a lot in the Old Testament one would reject without hesitation. Mankind's collective philosophies and religions teach a code that most would agree with; it's like maths, existing in the nature of things. C. S. Lewis summed it up in the Appendix to The Abolition of Man.
Who are you to decide those limits?
Porn, actually, almost by definition, IS art! It’s just art that many disapprove of (but secretly enjoy anyways) because of antiquated religious values.
No the world work better when we had moral codes when this kind of filth was illegal when you went to jail for it let's go back to those happier times.
- No the world would work better with my moral code. HOLY WAR!
I think there's a problem of spectrum, rather than outright rejection or acceptance. A theist would say that God created sex; therefore, it's natural. An atheist would say that Nature created it, coming down to the same thing. The job of art, per Shakespeare, is to hold up the mirror to nature; or depict other things. Sex is a good, beautiful thing in the right context. We are here because of, and most are driven to some extent by it. Therefore, I do not see what's wrong with the depiction of sexuality, this good, beautiful thing, or the human form---God's or Nature's work of art; neither would blush.

There is a problem, however, if we look at the kind of adult material prevalent today, increasingly brutal, repulsive, and able to make the blood run cold. There seems to be a funny law at work where these minor, distasteful depictions spread and become common. Then, people try to re-enact them in life, perhaps alienating a spouse or partner by revulsion. Nor can we say that only those who look for will find them. All it takes is going onto an adult site, looking for "normal" sexual material, and sooner or later, the bad stuff will bombard one's eyes. If we had to make a poll of the entire world, getting them to watch these things, I don't doubt that the suffrage of mankind would reject most of it. So, why do we allow these underground growths to hijack sexuality or its depiction?

No doubt, censorship isn't the answer, but fighting the "poor" with the "excellent." I believe that having "better" sexual material in mainstream contexts would, partly, combat this. What people are really seeking is the erotic, and that, ironically, is hardly found in today's pornography, which is duller than a doornail. Placed against old-school erotic cinema, it stands no chance. Some also go to pornography but don't want to, because they are missing something in life, alone, or have nothing to do; they are searching for warmth and connection, a welcoming face, but feel emptier afterwards.
 
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