OEMs? OEMs don't particularly care if they make computers that are noisy. This is for DIY people and system integrators who want to make their computers as silent as possible.
Noctua's massive 3.3-pound fanless cooler goes into mass production
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OEMs? OEMs don't particularly care if they make computers that are noisy. This is for DIY people and system integrators who want to make their computers as silent as possible.
ypsylon
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Oh dear you got Like just for the awesome Alfred Bester.I think that I may have been the only one that got it. I don't know what alchemist83's problem is.
Anyway. It's pretty sizeable chunk of metal. I don't know if I would want to run it completely passive. Even so 600 or 800 rpm 120 mm fan is completely inaudible even at night. I understand passive cooling in NUCs, but frankly I see no point in desktop environment unless you're in sound proof room or something doing research. Single slowest fan is better than no fan. Convection cannot be relied to do all the stuff. Especially with pressure cookers as Intel 14nm++++++++++++++++ if there is no airflow in case at all. Doesn't really make sense.
Yeah and you've mentioned Thermalright True Copper. I had it in my hands, in the end went with same design, but more classic aluminium fins. You could easily kill like 3 people at once with TC. Absolutely monstrous cooler heavy as a sack of bricks and there were numerous stories where people cracked the motherboard PCB because of the weight and tight case fit.
JamesBlond
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Imagine all the people who come up with these heat sinks designed a case with proper airflow.... one day, 2029 somebody will make a case that has great airflow and can have 6 standard 3.5in drive bays and 2 ssd bays on the side of the case, slightly wider than normal, but still sleek and sexy, with plenty of space for 9 quiet fans and a good extraction point for GPU heat.... well, that would be so amazing
Ludak021
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so your solution to cooling is a cooler that turns into a heater once the pump fails one way or another.
Interesting choice.
Daniele 00
Posts: 159 +121
the more metal, the more capacity to dissipate heats...
Avro Arrow
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It all depends on application. If you're an OEM that has a customer that requires their computers to have ultimate long-term reliability (like in the medical field), then this is one less moving vital part. The overwhelming majority of DIY applications are for gaming or other high-performance applications. This doesn't really lend itself to that. Maybe you should watch the video from Greg Salazar and then ask yourself "How many DIY builders are really going to be interested in a fanless solution that limits what their CPU will be capable of?" because I can't think of any. People who only engage in light use of their PCs tend to be the ignorant masses who tend to buy craptops or "brand-in-a-box" desktops.
The only DIY application that I could see this being useful for is the HTPC but most people throw those together from spare parts that they no longer use. In those cases, sure, this might be useful but if I know Noctua, this will not be cheap and the sound of an HTPC can be mitigated simply by putting next to, or behind the TV, a good distance from where your sofa is.
Avro Arrow
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Thanks for that! Yeah, I'll never forget that scene where he's deliberately but subtly trolling then-security chief Zack Allen. When Zack storms off, he turns to Sheridan and says:Oh dear you got Like just for the awesome Alfred Bester.
"Mr. Allen seems to be under a great deal of stress. I don't think he is eating right. Make sure he gets enough fibre. That's always important." <- Is there anything more 90s than saying to eat more fibre? LOL
I was of course paraphrasing for the meme. I remember that I almost bust a gut laughing because the look on Walter Koenig's face as he was saying it was absolutely priceless. It was clear that he was having the time of his life in that role and who could blame him? His portrayal of Alfred Bester was so good that I consider it to be on par with Andrew Robinson's portrayal of Elim Garak.
Yeah, I don't really think that there will be a tonne of demand for this. Computers have gotten quieter and quieter over the decades and people survived just fine before. I wonder how many of the people who whine about computer noise lived during the time of the dot-matrix printer.
Actually, that wasn't me because before your post I honestly can't remember ever hearing of it before. I initially thought that you were referring to some kind of thermal paste until I googled it. Honestly, it's beautiful!
I really love the all-copper look of it. The only CPU coolers that I've ever purchased were a CoolerMaster Hyper 212, a Zalman AIO and a Deepcool Gamm Archer that was on sale at Canada Computers for about $6. Thanks for showing it to me though, it's such a nice-looking cooler and I usually couldn't care less what they look like. When it comes to CPU coolers, I'm always of the opinion that it either works or it doesn't and they all work because it's such a vital part of the PC so I never really pay much attetion to them.
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Newst cpu you can use with CR-80 is 5 year old RYZEN 5, this is talking about all current cpus
I've never had a pump failure on any AIO I've used so yes its a good choice for me. You are not talking to someone that is new at this I've used air coolers for the greater part of 20 years but right now I will go AIO over air everyday all day.
terzaerian
Posts: 1,517 +2,260
Ah yes, America isn't allowed to force its values on the rest of the world but the rest of the world is able to force its values on Americans
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Ludak021
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I do know that pumps will fail, sooner or later, yours just didn't die , yet.
Everything that has moving parts breaks eventually.
edit: maybe try sticking with one, not just getting rid of them for newer ones. Following that logic, my car never broke. I always sell them after 2 years since buying.
Crinkles
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Does that include industrial styled fans??
Drive a Noctua the brand that NEVER stops! But, I haven't had an AIO fail either. God, the anecctotal evidence showing a failure of AIO's to fail piles up fast.
Crinkles
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Yeah and I really don't care what components people use.
I don't hate them but I don't appreciate their choice for doodie brown plastic. Man there is nothing that looks good "in brown". Their fan blades are tops in any case.
TheBigT42
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You obviosity need the /s to understand sarcasm. Lighten up dude.
95 Celsius is too damn hot for a CPU to run at anyway
Considering the AIO is a year old I'm not worried about it at all. When I decide to do a full system upgrade in about 5+ years on a new socket I will be replacing it at that point.
I've been doing this long enough I know what I'm doing thanks.
Tom Sunday
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Noctua Problems: Looks like "Alder Lake" Intel's 12th generation processor is expected to launch in the second half of 2021.This is basically right around the corner and proffering a 10nm SuperFin process, a new LGA 1700 socket and DDR5. A huge and significant architectural upgrade in itself. Important: The new Intel 12th generation CPU is also much larger than any socket Intel ever pushed into the mainstream. The socket dimensions for LGA 1700 will be 37.5mm x 45mm, which is about 7.5mm taller than Intel's current LGA 1200. Does this mean that my just purchased "Corsair Capellix" for $170 is practically outdated and needs scrapping if I want to fly or upgrade later in 2021 to Alder Lake? New AIO's supposed to give anyone 5-years of sterling service? Surely my new Capellix AIO footprint may not cover or adequately cool the new LGA 1700 'rectangle' looking socket. In turn the new 3.3 pound "Noctua Passive Gorilla" will therefore also be a short-lived honeymoon. Money out of the window? Am I missing something here? And I wonder what other current hardware I should not be buying as it may not play nice with Alder Lake and friends and prohibits any existing case hardware carryover's or transfers. Thoughts anyone?
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Crinkles
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Tom Sunday
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[QUOTE="Crinkles said: "Brass standoffs? "
Yes these are indeed 100% screw compatible and generation proof. But that is what I thought about my first wife as well and nevertheless got screwed in the end.
Yes these are indeed 100% screw compatible and generation proof. But that is what I thought about my first wife as well and nevertheless got screwed in the end.
I'm pretty sure the kind of OEM PCs that are totally fanless will be using laptop parts and not a massive 2kg cooler.
And yes, it most definitely is a niche product, but at the same time, it's rated for 120W, so it shouldn't be too limiting for people who don't intend to OC. But the kind of person who wants a totally silent PC is willing to compromise on performance anyway.
ilovetohateyou
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Celsius is metric. Celsius is a derived SI unit, but it's still a metric unit.
THIS??? It looks like a glorified coffee filter basket.
I guess "abomination" is in the eye of the beholder- I wouldn't let that thing anywhere near my case.
Crinkles
Posts: 253 +222
Ouch.
There's always something sorrier..
wTf? Modern RTX Cooler
Sir Alex Ice
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Guessing you're unfamiliar with concepts like democracy. Or science efficiency.
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