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Nokia CEO: Apple created the conditions necessary to create Android

By Emil · 18 replies
Jun 9, 2011
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  1. Nokia CEO Stephen Elop had a keynote at the Open Mobile Summit in London today. He talked about various aspects of the industry, which you can read courtesy of mocoNews.…

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  2. mario

    mario Ex-TS Developer Posts: 399   +17

    Saying "companies and consumers have been choosing Android over iOS for a long time now" is very misleading, there are also a lot of companies and a lot of consumers choosing iOS over Android, as there are BB users choosing it over iOS and Android. There are no masses switching from iOS to Android nor otherwise. The smartphone market is very healthy right now and with very good alternatives, just don't point something that is not true just because you want it to be and I don't really see much praise to Android from your quote nor from the linked article.

    And by the way Nokia CEO is really talking out of his 'rear-end' Android exists before the iPhone was originally announced, what the iPhone did do is set the trend on an all touch screen display device and no physical keyboard, see: http://counternotions.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/android-iphone2.jpg?w=382&h=600
  3. NeoFryBoy

    NeoFryBoy TS Rookie Posts: 72

    All aboard the Android Train! CHOO CHOO!
  4. intelinside

    intelinside TS Rookie

    love Android.... far better than iOS.
  5. Panda218

    Panda218 TS Evangelist Posts: 416   +172

    @Mario I don't think its misleading at all. I know plenty of people who have moved away from iOS for Android, myself included. I loved my original iPhone, but I got extremely sick of the way apple works. I had always thought Android was very clunky and ugly, but once android hit 2.1 was out I saw that it was actually going to move somewhere and jumped on the train. There are far more features that don't cost me money and I can actually personalize the phone to be MINE :) I understand where you're coming from, but I own both devices and my android device is light years ahead of my iPhone 4
  6. Cota

    Cota TS Enthusiast Posts: 513   +8

    ap·ple noun, often attributive \ˈa-pəl\
    Definition of APPLE

    3: a closed, very restricted, overrated and overpriced method to develop a products-services that tends to get highly overrated due to consumerism.
  7. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,010   +18

    Apple came out with a superior product, but has been losing ground not because other products are better, but because people don't want the iPhone with Apple attached to it.

    Most of the people that I know, including die hard Macheads have their iPhones jailbroken. Apple could have maintained a much larger lead on Android had they adopted some of its openness. Instead they became very controlling, doing a 180 on the previous two decades of corporate philosophy.

    Apple created its own competition when they came up with a superior product that was hard to beat, but they really gave that competition a leg up through its business practices, and its increasingly hard line attitude towards everything.
  8. princeton

    princeton TS Addict Posts: 1,676

    But lots of Android products are better. Look at the samsung i9000 and i9100. Or the HTC sensation.
  9. Are you people on dope?! Android better? People don't want Apple controlling their phone?

    Let's see, Android is the wild west of software, with apps that steal your data, situation so bad that some apps are going to have to be banned; after the damage is already done. And this only the beginning.

    Sorry, but I'll take Apple's elegantly designed and safe 'walled garden' with all the innovation and ecosystem (iTunes, iCloud) that Android will never have. No one, but no one, can design hardware or write software like Apple, their long list of technological innovations are astounding. Google found a way to put ads in a search engine. Whoopee!
  10. mario

    mario Ex-TS Developer Posts: 399   +17

    @panda218 yes I believe is misleading because iPhone sales are only going up and it's market share is very steady. Apple is the only manufacturer for iPhones and they only have 1 model for sale, if you compare Apple's market share against individual smartphone manufacturers you'll find them very near the top.
  11. Frankly, I don't own a smartphone and don't care if IOS or Android is better.
    I use my phone for talking to human beings.
  12. yorro

    yorro TS Booster Posts: 251

    Silly CEO, this is how it goes.

    First God made the smart phone. The phone was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the system. And God said, "Let there be Android"; and there was light.
  13. Panda218

    Panda218 TS Evangelist Posts: 416   +172

    @Mario That's apples way... Its not my fault they don't make several different phones. I would rather be able to choose a phone that best suits me, rather then be given no other options. I'm not dead sold on Android though, I would like to see MS pickup some speed once "Mangos" releases, but who knows ^^
  14. cant wait for the New Nokia's to come out with WM7. Android and iphone can go to hell.
  15. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +95

    IMO 'one size doesn't fit all' and 'have limited appeal' as a consequence. Almost everyone I know have dumped iPhone (except 1) and they have either chosen WP or Android, even I am waiting to jump Android ship because of pathetic levels of stability on SGS. TBH I think buying SGS is my worst tech buying decision, considerable amount of money down the drain for no good ROI.

    As a consumer, I'd rather have something which is rock solid stable, of good quality, and allow me to do whatever I want to do (within a reason) regardless of what badge it came with.
  16. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,010   +18

    That was inevitable. Apple's products, by design, are middle of the road, designed to have as broad of an appeal as possible. When you release one model a year, you will get left behind.

    But I wasn't talking as much about hardware as climate. Apple had a huge lead in the market (well, if you pretend RIM doesn't exist), but they blew it with how they acted. They inspired such dislike from people with their draconian tactics and arrogance.

    "You're holding it wrong." is basically the summary of how Apple views itself and its customers. And people who don't like being treated that way moved away from Apple to any alternative they could find. Which is sad.
  17. Dude then u dont need to waste time commenting here...
  18. Panda218

    Panda218 TS Evangelist Posts: 416   +172

    @guest at 9:41pm I agree, but I will not say android can go to hell... I'm really hoping that Nokia releases some solid devices with WP7.1
  19. JudaZ

    JudaZ TS Enthusiast Posts: 284

    Windows Phone is crap .. Nokia Os phones bets it currently.

    and Symbian still kicks both iOS and Androids *** .. if people just can learn the diffrence of OS and UI.

    ...still challange anyone to mention anything an iOS or Android device can do out of the box that a Symbian^3 device can't ....

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